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Nia Thompson

Need help with reverse UCC search - trying to find all filings by debtor name

I'm working on a due diligence project and need to do a reverse UCC search to find all filings against a specific debtor company. The company has gone through several name changes over the years (started as ABC Manufacturing LLC, then became ABC Manufacturing Inc, now ABC Industrial Solutions LLC). I've been manually searching each state's SOS database but I'm worried I'm missing filings due to name variations or typos in the original UCC-1 forms. Is there a systematic way to do a comprehensive reverse UCC search across multiple states? I need to make sure I'm not missing any active liens before we proceed with the acquisition. The target company has operations in about 12 states so checking each one individually is taking forever.

Reverse UCC searches are tricky because each state's system works differently. Some states have good wildcard search capabilities but others are very literal with exact name matches. For name variations like you described, you'll need to search every possible permutation. Don't forget to check for DBA filings too - sometimes the UCC-1 uses the DBA name instead of the legal entity name.

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This is exactly why I always recommend keeping a spreadsheet of all known entity names and variations when doing due diligence. The number of times I've seen deals get complicated because someone missed a UCC filing under a slightly different name spelling...

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Question - do you also search for filings where the company might be listed as a secured party? Sometimes there are cross-collateralization issues that only show up in reverse searches.

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Ethan Wilson

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I've been doing UCC searches for M&A work for about 8 years now. The name variation issue you're dealing with is the biggest pain point in reverse searches. You have to think like someone who might have made a typo when filing the original UCC-1. Common variations to check: abbreviations (LLC vs L.L.C.), punctuation differences, spacing issues, and don't forget about predecessor entities if there were mergers or reorganizations.

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Nia Thompson

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That's a great point about predecessor entities. This company did have a merger about 3 years ago where they absorbed another smaller company. I should probably search for filings against that entity name too.

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Yuki Tanaka

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YES absolutely search predecessor names! I learned this the hard way when we missed a $2M equipment lien because it was filed against the old company name before a statutory merger. The lien survived the merger but we didn't find it in our initial search.

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Carmen Diaz

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Have you tried using Certana.ai's document verification tool? I discovered it recently when I was struggling with similar cross-reference issues. You can upload multiple UCC documents and it automatically flags inconsistencies in debtor names across different filings. It's been really helpful for catching name variations that I might have missed in manual searches. Just upload your UCC search results as PDFs and it cross-checks everything for you.

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Nia Thompson

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Haven't heard of that before but it sounds like it could save me a lot of time. Right now I'm manually comparing dozens of filings across different states and trying to track which ones might be related.

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Andre Laurent

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I've used similar automated tools and they're definitely worth it for complex due diligence projects. The manual cross-referencing is where most mistakes happen, especially when you're dealing with multiple entity names and variations.

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AstroAce

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Don't forget to check for fixture filings too if this company has real estate or manufacturing facilities. Fixture filings sometimes use different debtor name formats than regular UCC-1 filings, and they're often filed in different indices. Also, some states have separate databases for fixture filings vs. regular UCC filings.

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Nia Thompson

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Good catch - they do have manufacturing facilities in 4 states. I hadn't thought about fixture filings potentially using different name formats. That's another layer of complexity.

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Fixture filings are the worst for name consistency. I've seen fixture filings where they used the property address as part of the debtor identification, or where they used the building owner's name instead of the actual debtor. Always check the real estate records too.

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Jamal Brown

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Just a heads up - make sure you're checking both active and lapsed filings. Sometimes a continuation statement was filed late or incorrectly, so a filing might show as lapsed but still be legally effective. Also check for any UCC-3 partial releases that might have changed the collateral description but left the filing active.

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Mei Zhang

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This is important. I once found a filing that showed as lapsed in the system but the secured party had actually filed a continuation - it just took the state 3 months to process it and update the status.

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Question about lapsed filings - if a UCC-1 shows as lapsed but there's evidence the debtor is still making payments on the underlying loan, should we assume the lien is still enforceable even if the filing technically expired?

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Ethan Wilson

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That's getting into legal advice territory but generally speaking, a lapsed filing means the security interest is no longer perfected against third parties. The debt still exists but the secured party lost their priority position. You'd need to check the actual loan documents and get legal counsel involved.

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Pro tip: if you're doing searches in multiple states, keep track of which states have real-time vs. batch processing for UCC filings. Some states update their databases daily, others might be 2-3 days behind. For due diligence timing, you want to make sure you're getting the most current information possible.

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CosmicCaptain

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Delaware is terrible for this - their system sometimes shows filings as 'pending' for weeks. Always call to confirm status on critical filings.

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California's system usually updates overnight but I've seen delays during high-volume periods. Texas is pretty reliable for real-time updates though.

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When you're doing reverse searches, are you also checking for any amendments that might have changed the debtor name? Sometimes a UCC-3 amendment changes the debtor name due to a corporate reorganization, but the filing number stays the same. Those can be easy to miss if you're only searching by current entity names.

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Nia Thompson

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That's a really good point. I've been focusing on the original UCC-1 filings but haven't been systematically checking for name-change amendments. That could definitely cause me to miss active filings.

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UCC-3 amendments for name changes are actually pretty common. Any time there's a merger, acquisition, or even just a simple name change, there should be an amendment updating the debtor information on existing filings.

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I ran into a similar situation last month with a multi-state reverse search. Ended up using a combination of manual searches and Certana.ai's verification tool to cross-check everything. The automated verification caught several name discrepancies I had missed, including one filing where 'LLC' was spelled out as 'Limited Liability Company' in the original UCC-1. Saved me from missing a significant equipment lien.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Those kinds of name format differences are so frustrating. You'd think there would be standardized formatting requirements but every state seems to handle entity suffixes differently.

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StarSurfer

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The worst is when someone files a UCC-1 and includes punctuation that's not in the actual legal entity name, or vice versa. Creates all kinds of search complications.

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Ava Martinez

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Make sure you're also checking for any filings where your target company might be listed as an additional debtor or co-debtor. Sometimes in complex financing arrangements, multiple entities are listed on the same UCC-1, and those can be easy to miss in a standard reverse search.

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Miguel Castro

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Great point. I've seen UCC-1 filings with 4-5 related entities all listed as debtors for cross-collateralization purposes. If you're not specifically looking for those multi-debtor filings, you might miss important liens.

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Also check for parent/subsidiary relationships. Sometimes the UCC-1 is filed against the parent company but covers assets owned by subsidiaries, or vice versa.

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Connor Byrne

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Have you considered hiring a professional UCC search company for this? For a 12-state search with multiple entity names and variations, it might be more cost-effective than doing it all yourself, especially if you're billing your time to the client. They usually have access to better search tools and databases.

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Nia Thompson

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I've thought about it, but the client wants to keep costs down and I'm already pretty deep into the manual process. Plus I like having direct control over the search parameters to make sure nothing gets missed.

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Yara Elias

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I get the cost concern, but professional search companies often catch things that even experienced lawyers miss. The liability protection alone might be worth the cost for a major acquisition.

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Carmen Diaz

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Even if you stick with doing it yourself, definitely try that Certana.ai tool I mentioned earlier. It's way cheaper than hiring a search company but still gives you the automated cross-checking that catches the name variations and inconsistencies.

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QuantumQuasar

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One more thing - don't forget to document your search methodology and keep records of exactly which databases you searched and when. If any issues come up later, you'll want to be able to show that you did a thorough and reasonable search based on the information available at the time.

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This is crucial for CYA purposes. I always keep screenshots of search results pages with timestamps, especially for the 'no results found' searches.

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Paolo Moretti

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Good practice. Also document any system limitations or issues you encounter during the search process. If a state's database was down or malfunctioning, you want that noted in your search report.

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This is such a comprehensive thread - lots of great advice here! I'm dealing with a similar situation but for a smaller target (only 3 states). One thing I'd add is to check if any of the states you're searching have consolidated their UCC databases with other filing systems. For example, some states now include UCC filings in their broader business entity search portals, which can sometimes return different results than searching the dedicated UCC database. Also, if you're using Certana.ai or similar tools, make sure you're uploading high-quality scans - I've found that poor PDF quality can cause the automated systems to miss important details in the debtor name fields.

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