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Liam O'Sullivan

How to do a UCC search - getting inconsistent results across state portals

I'm handling multiple commercial loan portfolios and need to run comprehensive UCC searches but I'm getting different results when I search the same debtor across different state systems. Some states show active filings that others don't, and I'm worried I'm missing critical liens that could affect our security positions. The debtor operates in TX, CA, and FL so I need to check all three but the search interfaces are completely different. Has anyone developed a systematic approach for multi-state UCC searches? I've been doing manual searches on each SOS website but it's time-consuming and I keep second-guessing whether I'm searching correctly. Need to make sure I'm not missing any existing UCC-1 filings before we file our own.

Amara Okonkwo

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Multi-state UCC searches are definitely tricky because each state has different search requirements. Some states are very literal with debtor names while others are more forgiving. Make sure you're searching exact legal entity names as they appear on formation documents, not DBA names.

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This is so true - I learned this the hard way when I missed a filing because I searched under the company's trade name instead of their registered LLC name.

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California's system is particularly strict about punctuation and spacing in entity names. Texas is more forgiving but you still need to be precise.

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Dylan Hughes

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You should also search variations of the debtor name - with and without punctuation, different abbreviations (Corp vs Corporation, LLC vs Limited Liability Company). Each state portal handles name variations differently so you need to cast a wide net.

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NightOwl42

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YES! And don't forget to search both individual names and entity names if you're dealing with personal guarantors or sole proprietorships.

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That's exactly what I'm struggling with - how do you keep track of all the name variations across multiple states? It's becoming a nightmare to manage.

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I recently discovered Certana.ai's document verification tool and it's been a game-changer for this exact issue. You can upload your formation documents and it automatically checks for UCC filings using proper debtor name variations. Saves hours of manual portal searching and catches name mismatches I would have missed.

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How does that work exactly? Do you upload PDFs and it searches automatically?

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Yeah, you just upload the charter documents or existing UCC forms and it cross-references against state databases using the exact legal names. Much more reliable than trying to guess name variations manually.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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That sounds too good to be true honestly. How accurate is it compared to manual searches?

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Ava Thompson

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For manual searches, I always start with the exact name from the Secretary of State formation records, then work outward with variations. Also check if the entity has any amendments or name changes filed - those can throw off your search strategy.

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Good point about name changes. I've seen cases where UCC filings were under the old entity name even after amendments were filed.

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Zainab Ali

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Florida's system shows name history which is helpful, but Texas doesn't always make it obvious when there have been entity amendments.

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Connor Murphy

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DON'T FORGET TO SEARCH BOTH INDIVIDUAL AND ORGANIZATION INDEXES! Some states separate these and you might miss filings if you only search one. Also some older filings might be in different databases or require separate legacy searches.

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Amara Okonkwo

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This is crucial - especially for smaller companies where the owner might have personal guarantees or individual filings mixed in.

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I hadn't thought about legacy databases. How far back do you typically search?

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Connor Murphy

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I go back at least 10 years to catch any filings that might have lapsed but could still affect priority. Better safe than sorry in secured lending.

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Yara Nassar

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Make sure you're also checking for fixture filings in the real estate records if your collateral includes equipment or fixtures. UCC searches won't catch those and they can have priority over your filing.

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StarGazer101

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Fixture filings are the worst because they're usually in county records, not state UCC databases. Completely separate search required.

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I always forget about fixture filings until it's too late. Need to build that into my search checklist.

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Paolo Romano

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Are you searching under the debtor's current address and any previous addresses? Some states organize records geographically and you might miss filings if the company relocated.

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Wait, the address affects search results? I thought UCC searches were just by debtor name.

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Paolo Romano

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Most states are name-based but some older systems or specific search functions use location data. It's worth checking if your search results seem incomplete.

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Ava Thompson

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I think you might be confusing UCC with real estate searches. UCC databases are typically indexed by debtor name, not address.

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Amina Diop

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Have you considered using a commercial search service? They can run comprehensive multi-state searches and provide certified results. Might be worth it for large loan amounts.

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I've looked into those but they're expensive and I need to do these searches frequently. Looking for something more cost-effective for routine due diligence.

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The commercial services are good for final closing searches but not practical for preliminary due diligence work.

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I tried that Certana tool mentioned earlier and it actually works pretty well. Uploaded our borrower's articles of incorporation and it found two UCC-1 filings I had missed in my manual searches. One was filed under a slightly different entity name format.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about - missing filings due to name variations. How long did the automated search take?

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Just a few minutes after uploading the PDF. Much faster than manually checking each state portal and more thorough than I could be manually.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Ok I'm convinced to try it. Better than spending hours on state websites and still missing things.

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Javier Torres

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Document everything you search and when - create a search log with dates, databases checked, and search terms used. If there's ever a dispute about due diligence, you'll need to show you conducted a reasonable search.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Great advice. I keep spreadsheets with search results and screenshots of the search screens showing zero results when applicable.

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Good point about documentation. I'll start keeping better records of my search methodology and results.

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Emma Wilson

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One more thing - check if any of the states require specific formatting for entity types in searches. Some systems won't find 'ABC Company LLC' if you search for 'ABC Company, LLC' with the comma.

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QuantumLeap

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California is notorious for this. Their search function is very literal about punctuation and spacing.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm going to try the automated tool and also implement a more systematic manual search process with better documentation. Thanks everyone!

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Glad the Certana suggestion was useful. It really does eliminate a lot of the guesswork in multi-state searches.

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