Need help with UCC statement request form - debtor name verification issues

I did try the original name but still nothing. The company was formed in 2019 so it's not like we're dealing with ancient records. Maybe there's an issue with how I'm filling out the request form?

Sometimes the SOS databases are just terrible at cross-referencing name changes. You might need to do separate searches for every variation of the name you can think of.

That sounds helpful - does it work with state databases or just document comparison?

It does document consistency checking - so if you upload charter documents and existing UCC forms, it flags discrepancies in debtor names, addresses, etc. Really saved me when I had similar name matching problems.

Interesting, never heard of that service. Might be worth trying if the manual approach isn't working.

Good point. They're definitely incorporated in the same state where I'm searching, but I haven't checked if there were any corporate restructuring events that might have moved filings around.

Corporate mergers can really mess up UCC continuity. Sometimes the surviving entity has to file new UCC-1s instead of continuing the old ones.

Our state system doesn't seem to have wildcard capability, but I hadn't thought about looking specifically for UCC-3 amendments. That's a great suggestion.

UCC-3 amendments are definitely where you'll find name change documentation. But you still need to know the original filing number to track those down.

True, but sometimes you can find the filing numbers in other corporate documents or loan agreements, even if the direct name search fails.

Good luck with that. I tried calling our state office last week and was on hold for 2 hours before giving up.

Fair point. Some states are better than others for phone support. But if it's urgent enough, might be worth the wait.

Tell me about it. I spent three days last month trying to find a continuation filing that should have been obvious.

At least most states have online portals now. Remember when you had to mail paper request forms and wait weeks for responses?

True, but the online systems are buggy and the search functions are terrible. Sometimes I think the paper system was more reliable.

That's actually really smart. I've been doing random searches but not tracking what I've already tried.

I do something similar but also include dates ranges in my searches. Sometimes older filings show up differently than newer ones.

I've been focusing on debtor name searches. I don't know all their historical lenders, but that's a good backup approach if I can identify some of the secured parties.

Bank loan documents usually list the UCC filing information, so if you can get copies of their loan agreements, that might give you the exact debtor names and filing numbers to search for.

That's the second mention of that service in this thread. Might be worth checking out if my manual searches keep failing.

I've used it too for document consistency checking. Pretty straightforward - just upload PDFs and it highlights discrepancies between documents.

Will do! Planning to try the UCC-3 amendment search approach and maybe that document verification tool if I'm still stuck. The corporate form change angle might be relevant for both our situations.

Good luck! Corporate form changes definitely complicate UCC searches because the debtor name requirements can be different between entity types.

Exactly! I'm wondering if I need to search under both the old corp name and new LLC name separately.