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Been doing UCC work for 20 years and I can tell you that comma placement has definitely caused perfection issues in court cases. Don't take any chances with punctuation differences - fix them with amendments if needed.

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Lucas Parker

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Wow, court cases over commas? That's terrifying.

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Donna Cline

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The legal system can be very literal about these things. Better safe than sorry with UCC filings.

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Update us on what you find! I'm dealing with some inherited filings too and curious how this turns out for you.

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Julia Hall

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Will do! Planning to spend tomorrow going through everything systematically. Thanks everyone for the advice.

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Good luck! These kinds of cleanup projects are never fun but necessary.

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Jayden Reed

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Just went through this process myself and found another verification service that helped me review all the paperwork before signing. Certana.ai let me upload my loan agreement and the proposed UCC-1 to make sure everything matched up correctly. Caught a small discrepancy in how they described my equipment that could have been an issue later.

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That's the second mention of that tool. Might be worth checking out since I'm nervous about making mistakes.

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Jayden Reed

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Yeah it's pretty straightforward - just upload PDFs and it does the cross-checking automatically. Gives you peace of mind that everything aligns properly.

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Nora Brooks

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Bottom line - UCC filings are standard practice for secured business loans. They give lenders legal rights to specific collateral if you default. As long as you understand what assets are covered and you're comfortable with the loan terms, there's nothing to worry about. Just make sure all the paperwork is accurate before signing.

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Thanks everyone. This has been really helpful. I feel much better about moving forward with the loan now that I understand what the UCC filing actually means.

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Nora Brooks

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Glad we could help. Good luck with your equipment purchase!

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Ruby Blake

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Quick question - are you also checking federal tax liens? Those won't show up in the UCC search but could still affect your priority position.

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Mason Stone

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Good reminder - yes, we always check federal and state tax liens separately. This borrower came back clean on those searches.

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Smart. I've seen deals where everyone focused on UCCs and missed a big tax lien that ended up taking priority.

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Ella Harper

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One more thing to consider - if you find discrepancies, you might want to file continuation statements or amendments to clean up any name issues on existing filings before you file your new UCC-1. Better to be safe than sorry.

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Ella Harper

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You're right - only the secured party can amend. I meant more like having the borrower contact their existing lenders to clean things up if needed.

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Or include language in your security agreement that addresses the name variations and requires the debtor to use the exact legal name going forward.

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Lara Woods

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This thread is super helpful! I'm dealing with something similar but with a corporation that merged with another entity. The surviving corporation kept its original name but I need to make sure I'm not missing any predecessor entities in my collateral research. Anyone dealt with merger situations in UCC filings?

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Adrian Hughes

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I had a merger situation last year. Ended up needing to file additional UCC-1s to cover assets that transferred from the non-surviving entity.

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Lara Woods

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Thanks, I'll definitely need to dig deeper into the merger docs then.

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After reading all this, I'm definitely going to be more careful with name verification. We had one rejected filing last month that cost us extra fees to refile, and now I realize it was probably a name mismatch issue. The additional verification steps everyone mentioned seem worth the extra time to avoid rejections and potential perfection problems down the road.

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Ian Armstrong

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The rejection fees really add up if you're doing volume filings. Prevention is definitely cheaper than correction.

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Eli Butler

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Plus the time factor - rejections can delay closing if you're working on a tight timeline.

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Felicity Bud

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For anyone else reading this thread, I'd recommend always requesting a copy of the UCC-3 termination statement when you pay off any secured loan. Most lenders will provide it if you ask, and it saves you from having to dig through state databases later to verify everything was filed correctly.

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Max Reyes

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This is solid advice. I've started doing this for all my equipment loans and it's already caught one filing error before it became a problem.

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Agreed. It's such a simple thing to request but can save huge headaches down the road.

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Adrian Connor

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Just wanted to add that if anyone runs into this issue with a dealership that's no longer in business, you'll need to work directly with the original lender or their successor. Had this happen when a local dealership closed and it was a real pain to track down who was responsible for filing the termination.

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Aisha Jackson

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That's a good point. Business closures can really complicate UCC matters. Sometimes the files get transferred to other dealers or lenders.

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Yep, and if the original secured party is out of business with no successor, you might need to petition the court for a termination order. It's rare but it happens.

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