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Update us when you figure out what's going on! I'm curious whether it turns out to be a Westlaw display issue or an actual name discrepancy. This kind of situation makes everyone nervous.

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Carmen Vega

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I'll definitely post an update once I sort this out. Thanks everyone for the guidance.

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Paolo Conti

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Same here, following for the resolution. These database quirks can be really confusing.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I've seen this exact scenario play out before and it's worth doing a comprehensive verification process. First, pull the actual UCC-1 filing from the other lender (not just the Westlaw summary) to see exactly how they listed the debtor name. Then cross-reference both your filing and theirs against the company's current articles of incorporation and their most recent annual report with the Secretary of State. The key is ensuring your UCC-1 matches the exact legal name as currently registered with the state - not just what the borrower told you or what appears on their loan application. If there's any discrepancy, file a UCC-3 amendment immediately. With $450K on the line, spending a few hours on verification and potentially $50-100 on an amendment fee is absolutely worth the peace of mind and protection of your security interest.

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Noah Ali

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Bottom line: 5 years from filing date, continuation window starts 6 months before expiration. File early, double-check debtor information, and make sure you're still in the right jurisdiction. You've got this!

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This thread was super helpful. I have a few UCC-1s from 2020 so I need to start thinking about continuations too.

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Glad this discussion helped multiple people. UCC continuation timing is one of those things that seems simple until you're actually doing it.

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PixelWarrior

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As someone new to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly educational! I'm working on my first secured transaction and was completely unaware of the continuation requirements. The 5-year rule with the 6-month filing window makes sense, but I'm curious - are there any common mistakes newcomers make with continuation filings that I should watch out for? Also, does anyone have recommendations for reliable UCC search services to verify current filing status before preparing continuations?

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Welcome to secured transactions! Common newcomer mistakes include: 1) Missing the exact 6-month continuation window (don't file too early or too late), 2) Not checking for debtor name changes since the original filing, 3) Forgetting to verify you're still filing in the correct state if the debtor relocated, and 4) Using outdated collateral descriptions. For UCC searches, most state filing offices have online search tools, or you can use services like CT Corporation or CSC for multi-state searches. Always do a fresh search before filing your continuation to make sure your original UCC-1 is still active and properly indexed.

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Arnav Bengali

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For anyone reading this thread later - the Texas Secretary of State has a fraud alert section on their website specifically about UCC scam services. Worth checking out if you get one of these calls.

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Arnav Bengali

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They even have examples of the fake 'urgent notice' letters these companies send. Pretty eye-opening stuff.

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That's helpful. Between the SOS fraud warnings and tools like Certana.ai for document verification, there's really no reason to fall for these expensive services anymore.

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As someone who's been handling UCC filings for over a decade, I can tell you these cold-call services are almost always scams. The legitimate UCC service providers work through established relationships with law firms and financial institutions - they don't randomly call businesses. Your instincts are spot on. The Texas SOS portal is actually one of the better state systems, and at $15 per filing versus $150-300 these scammers charge, you're doing the right thing handling it yourself. Just make sure you're tracking your 5-year continuation deadlines properly with multiple calendar reminders, and you'll be fine.

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Laura Lopez

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Thanks for the reassurance from someone with extensive experience! The multiple calendar reminders idea is smart - I've been relying on just one notification which could be risky if I miss it somehow. Do you recommend any specific timing for the reminders, like 6 months, 3 months, and 1 month before expiration?

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Alexis Renard

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Bottom line - the UCC statement request form is your best friend for equipment purchases. It gives you the official documentation you need to know exactly what liens exist and whether they'll affect your purchase. Don't try to cut corners on this part of due diligence.

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Thanks everyone, this has been incredibly helpful. I'm definitely going to request the full statements rather than just doing a basic search.

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Camila Jordan

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Smart choice. Better to spend a little extra on proper due diligence than to inherit someone else's lien problems later.

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Chloe Taylor

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Great advice from everyone here! Just to add one more practical tip - when you submit your UCC statement request, also consider requesting certified copies rather than just informational copies. For a transaction this size, having certified documents will be helpful if you need to provide proof to your lender or if any disputes arise later. The cost difference is usually minimal but the legal weight of certified copies can be important. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of exactly what you searched for (debtor names, variations, etc.) so you can show your attorney and any future stakeholders that you did thorough due diligence.

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Niko Ramsey

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I've run into this exact same confusion with Canadian lenders before! There's definitely no official UCC 1-308 form or section that applies to financing statement filings. What I've learned from experience is that many Canadian financial institutions use their own internal coding systems that don't translate to US UCC requirements at all. For your equipment financing, you'll just need to file a standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is located. The most critical thing is ensuring the debtor name on your UCC-1 exactly matches how it appears in their loan documents - I've seen Canadian lenders format corporate entity names differently than what we typically use in the US. I'd suggest asking them for a clear breakdown of what information they actually need on the US filing, and politely ignore any references to their "1-308" code since it's likely just their internal tracking system.

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Dylan Evans

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This is exactly the kind of clarity I needed! I've been dealing with cross-border transactions for a while, but this was my first time encountering such confusing internal reference numbers from a Canadian lender. Your advice about focusing on the debtor name formatting is spot on - I'm going to double-check that the entity name on my UCC-1 matches their security agreement exactly, character by character. It's reassuring to know that other professionals have faced this same confusion with Canadian institutions. I'll definitely ask them to break down their actual US filing requirements and separate that from their internal tracking codes.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I've encountered this exact situation multiple times with Canadian lenders, and you're absolutely right to be confused - there is no UCC 1-308 form or section in the Uniform Commercial Code. This sounds like their internal reference system that has zero relevance to your actual US filing requirements. For equipment financing with Canadian lenders, you still file the standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is physically located, just like any domestic transaction. The main pitfall I've seen is debtor name mismatches - Canadian entities often have slightly different legal name formats or corporate suffixes that don't align with US naming conventions. I'd recommend getting a copy of their security agreement and comparing the exact debtor name formatting to what you plan to put on the UCC-1. Also, ask them point-blank what specific information they need on the US filing and ignore any references to their "1-308" code - it's likely just confusing their internal processes with actual UCC requirements.

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NebulaNomad

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience with Canadian lenders! I've been second-guessing myself all week trying to figure out what this mysterious "1-308" reference could be. Your point about debtor name formatting differences is something I definitely need to pay closer attention to. I'm going to request a copy of their security agreement and do a side-by-side comparison with my draft UCC-1 before filing. It's reassuring to know that this confusion with Canadian internal codes is common and that I should just focus on the standard UCC-1 requirements. I'll ask them directly for their US filing requirements and politely ignore their internal tracking numbers.

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