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Andre Laurent

Who is the debtor in a UCC filing - confused about roles in secured transactions

I'm working on my first UCC-1 filing for our company's equipment loan and I keep getting confused about who exactly is considered the 'debtor' in this situation. We're a small manufacturing business that took out a $150,000 loan to buy new machinery. The bank wants to file a UCC-1 to secure their interest in the equipment. I understand the bank is the secured party, but I'm not 100% clear on whether we (the borrowing company) are automatically the debtor, or if there are situations where someone else could be the debtor? The loan documents reference our company as the borrower, but the UCC forms seem to use different terminology. I want to make sure I understand this correctly before we submit anything because I've heard horror stories about filings getting rejected for basic mistakes like this. Can someone explain the debtor role in simple terms?

The debtor in a UCC filing is typically the entity that owes the obligation secured by the collateral. In your case, since your manufacturing company borrowed the money and the equipment secures that debt, your company would be listed as the debtor on the UCC-1. It's pretty straightforward - whoever owes the money and owns (or will own) the collateral is the debtor.

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This is correct. The debtor-creditor relationship from your loan agreement carries over to the UCC filing. Your company borrowed money, so you're the debtor on both the loan docs and the UCC-1.

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Mei Wong

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Just make sure the debtor name on the UCC-1 matches EXACTLY how your company name appears on your formation documents. Name mismatches are a huge cause of filing rejections.

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Be careful though - there are situations where the debtor might not be the borrower. For example, if someone else owns the collateral but is guaranteeing your loan, they could be listed as the debtor. Or in some complex transactions you might have multiple debtors. But for a simple equipment loan like yours, yes, your company is the debtor.

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PixelWarrior

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Good point about guarantors. I've seen cases where a parent company guarantees a subsidiary's loan and the parent's assets are used as collateral - then the parent becomes the debtor on the UCC filing even though they didn't borrow the money.

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Amara Adebayo

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That's getting pretty complex for what sounds like a straightforward equipment financing deal. For the original poster's situation, their company borrowed money and owns the equipment, so they're definitely the debtor.

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I ran into a similar situation last year with our forklift purchase. What really helped me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool. I uploaded our loan agreement and the draft UCC-1 form, and it immediately flagged that our company name was slightly different between the two documents (we had 'LLC' in one and 'L.L.C.' in the other). Saved us from a potential rejection and the headache of having to refile.

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That's really smart. Those little name variations can kill a filing. How does that tool work exactly?

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You just upload PDFs of your documents and it cross-checks debtor names, filing numbers, and other key details for consistency. Takes like 30 seconds and catches mistakes that are easy to miss when you're doing manual comparisons.

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Dylan Evans

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Wish I had known about this before my UCC-3 continuation got rejected last month for a name mismatch. Would have saved me weeks of delays.

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Sofia Gomez

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Here's what I tell people: think of the debtor as the party whose property rights are being affected by the UCC filing. In your equipment loan, your company's rights to the machinery are what's being encumbered to secure the debt. That makes your company the debtor for UCC purposes, regardless of what terminology your loan documents use.

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StormChaser

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That's a great way to think about it. The UCC is all about property rights and who has claims on what assets.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Exactly. The debtor is essentially the 'owner' of the collateral from a UCC perspective, even if there are liens or security interests attached to it.

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Ava Williams

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Just went through this same process for our restaurant equipment loan. One thing to watch out for - make sure you're using your company's exact legal name as it appears on your articles of incorporation or LLC formation docs. Not your DBA name, not a shortened version, the full legal name. The Secretary of State systems are very picky about this.

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Miguel Castro

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This! I made this mistake on my first filing. Used our trade name instead of our legal entity name and it got bounced back immediately.

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The name matching requirements are probably the most common source of UCC filing errors. Get that wrong and your security interest isn't properly perfected.

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For what it's worth, I always double-check by looking at who's signing the security agreement in the loan docs. The party signing as the 'debtor' or 'grantor' in the security agreement should match the debtor listed on your UCC-1. In your case, if your company signed the security agreement granting the bank a security interest in the equipment, then your company is definitely the debtor.

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LunarEclipse

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Smart approach. The security agreement and UCC-1 should always be consistent in terms of debtor identification.

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Yara Khalil

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Yep, and if there's any discrepancy between the loan agreement and security agreement about who the debtor is, go with what the security agreement says for UCC purposes.

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Keisha Brown

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Don't overthink this one. In probably 95% of commercial lending situations, the borrower is the debtor on the UCC filing. Your company borrowed money, your company owns the equipment, your company is the debtor. The exceptions are pretty rare and usually involve complex multi-party transactions that you'd know about if you were dealing with them.

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Agreed. For a straightforward equipment loan, it's almost always the borrower who's the debtor.

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Amina Toure

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The complexity usually comes in when you have holding companies, subsidiaries, personal guarantees, or cross-collateralization. Simple equipment loans are pretty clear-cut.

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Oliver Weber

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I actually had a situation where we almost messed this up because our loan was structured weird. The bank required our parent company to guarantee the loan, but the subsidiary (us) was buying the equipment. We initially thought the parent should be the debtor since they were on the hook for the money, but our lawyer explained that since WE owned the equipment, WE were the debtor for UCC purposes. The guarantee was separate from the security interest.

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FireflyDreams

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That's a good example of why ownership of the collateral is key. The guarantee creates a separate obligation but doesn't change who owns the equipment.

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Corporate guarantee situations can definitely confuse things. Always good to get legal advice when you have multi-entity structures involved.

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Had to file a UCC-3 amendment last month because we got the debtor name wrong on our original UCC-1. Our company had changed its legal name slightly after incorporation but before the loan, and we used the old name on the filing. Took forever to sort out and almost caused issues with our loan compliance. Now I always verify the current legal name with the Secretary of State before filing anything.

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Emma Anderson

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Name changes are such a pain for UCC filings. Did you have to file a continuation too or just the amendment?

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Just the amendment to correct the debtor name. But it was a hassle because the bank's compliance department started asking questions about whether the security interest was properly perfected during the period when the name was wrong.

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Another thing to consider - if you're dealing with personal property that might become fixtures (like built-in equipment), make sure you understand whether you need a regular UCC-1 or a fixture filing. The debtor is still the same, but the filing requirements are different. Though for movable manufacturing equipment, you're probably looking at a standard UCC-1.

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Good point about fixtures. Manufacturing equipment is usually movable so standard UCC-1, but built-in systems or equipment that becomes part of the real estate might need fixture filing treatment.

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CosmicVoyager

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Fixture filings have to be filed in the real estate records too, not just the UCC system. Adds another layer of complexity.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Bottom line for your situation: your manufacturing company is the debtor. You borrowed the money, you're buying the equipment, you'll own the equipment subject to the bank's security interest. Make sure your company's exact legal name (as shown on your formation documents) is used as the debtor name on the UCC-1, and you should be good to go. The bank handles the rest as the secured party.

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Freya Nielsen

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Perfect summary. For straightforward equipment financing, it really is that simple.

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Andre Laurent

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Thanks everyone! This really helps clarify things. I'll make sure we use our exact legal entity name as the debtor and let the bank handle their end as secured party.

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