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We ended up having to get our assignment documentation notarized after the first rejection, even though Article 9 doesn't specifically require notarization. Some SOS offices seem to prefer extra authentication on assignment papers.

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Hard to say for sure, but the combination of proper written assignment language plus notarization seemed to satisfy their requirements. No more rejections after that.

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Might be worth the extra step for peace of mind, especially with higher-value collateral like this.

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I went through something similar with a rejected assignment filing last year. The frustrating thing is that Article 9's written assignment requirements seem straightforward in theory, but the practical implementation can be tricky. What really helped us was creating a standardized assignment template that includes all the required elements: clear identification of the original security agreement, specific collateral description, assignor's signature with date, and most importantly, explicit language stating the assignor's intent to transfer their security interest. We also learned to always reference the original UCC-1 filing number prominently in the assignment document. Since implementing this approach, we haven't had any more rejections. For your $340k collateral situation, I'd definitely recommend getting the documentation perfect before refiling - the priority risk isn't worth cutting corners.

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In my experience, when clients mention weird form numbers like this, 90% of the time they're looking at outdated information or confusing different types of filings. I'd just start with what you know they need (probably a UCC-1 for the equipment financing) and work backwards from there.

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This is why I always ask clients to describe what they're trying to accomplish rather than what form they think they need.

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That's probably the smartest approach. I'll focus on the equipment financing requirements and ignore the form number confusion.

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I've run into this exact scenario before! Last year I had a client insisting they needed a "UCC 15" form for a vehicle financing deal. After some digging, it turned out they were looking at an old template from their previous lender that had internal reference numbers that didn't correspond to actual UCC forms. Illinois definitely uses the standard UCC-1, UCC-3, and UCC-5 forms like everywhere else. My guess is your client either has outdated paperwork or is mixing up form numbers from different filing systems. I'd recommend just walking them through what you actually need for the equipment financing - likely a standard UCC-1 to perfect the security interest - and let them know that "UCC 11" isn't a real form in Illinois or any other state I'm aware of.

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That's so helpful to hear from someone who's dealt with this exact situation! The internal lender reference numbers explanation makes total sense. I'm definitely going to focus on what we actually need to accomplish rather than trying to track down this mystery form. Thanks for sharing your experience with the UCC 15 situation - sounds like these mix-ups are more common than I thought.

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Just wanted to add another red flag I've noticed with these scams - they often include fake "case numbers" or "reference numbers" that look official but don't correspond to anything in the actual state filing system. I fell for one of these about two years ago (thankfully only lost $89 before I caught on) and when I tried to reference their "case number" with the Florida SOS, they had no record of it. Now I always cross-reference any numbers or codes mentioned in UCC correspondence with the official database before taking any action. It's also worth noting that legitimate UCC communications from the state typically include your actual filing number and debtor information that you can verify matches your records exactly. These scammers often get small details wrong that become obvious once you know what to look for.

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That fake case number detail is such a valuable tip! It's scary how sophisticated these scams have become with creating official-looking reference systems. I'm sorry you got caught by one, but your experience is really helping educate the rest of us. The cross-referencing approach you've developed sounds foolproof - if they can't provide a legitimate case number that matches state records, that's an immediate red flag. Your point about getting small details wrong is interesting too - it suggests they're using automated systems to generate these fake notices rather than carefully crafting each one. Do you remember what specific detail tipped you off that something was wrong with the one that got you?

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This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! As a newcomer to business ownership, I had no idea these UCC scams were so prevalent. I actually received something similar last month but threw it away because the return address looked suspicious. Reading everyone's experiences makes me realize how close I came to potentially falling for it. The tips about checking case numbers against official databases and verifying actual filing dates are invaluable. I'm definitely going to bookmark the Florida SOS website and set up those calendar reminders mentioned earlier. It's both reassuring and concerning to know this is such a widespread issue - reassuring that I'm not alone in receiving these, but concerning that they're becoming so sophisticated. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences and advice!

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Sounds like you've got a solid plan forming. Entity conversion = new UCC-1, careful debtor name verification, broad collateral description for manufacturing inventory, and continuous perfection timing. The key is executing it all flawlessly with that loan amount at stake.

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Exactly. I feel much more confident about the approach now. Thanks everyone for the guidance - this thread has been incredibly helpful.

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Glad we could help. These complex secured transactions require getting every detail right. Good luck with your filing!

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One additional consideration for your manufacturing client - if they have any equipment subject to federal regulations (like FDA equipment for medical devices or OSHA-regulated machinery), make sure your collateral description doesn't conflict with any regulatory restrictions on transfers or liens. I've seen UCC filings challenged where the collateral was subject to special federal oversight. Also, given the substantial loan amount, you might want to consider getting a UCC search done immediately before filing to see what other liens are already on record against both the old LLC and new corporation entities.

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Great point about the UCC search! I hadn't considered running searches on both entities. With a conversion happening, there could be existing liens on either the old LLC or potentially even preliminary filings against the new corporation. Running comprehensive searches before we file will help us understand the priority landscape and avoid any surprises. The regulatory equipment angle is also something I should discuss with our borrower - I know they have some specialized manufacturing equipment that might fall under OSHA regulations.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start with organizing all my documentation properly and then approach the acquiring bank's legal department with a formal written request. If that doesn't work within 30 days, I'll file a complaint with the state banking regulator. Really appreciate all the different perspectives on this - I had no idea there were so many potential approaches to the problem.

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Good luck! Let us know how it turns out. These kinds of situations are becoming more common with all the bank consolidation happening.

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Definitely keep us posted. This thread has been really helpful for understanding the process.

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One thing I'd add is to check if your state has a specific statute of limitations on how long UCC filings remain effective. In most states, UCC-1 filings lapse after 5 years unless a continuation statement is filed. Since your loan was from 2017 and it's now 2025, the filing might actually be expired already, which could simplify your refinancing situation. Your new lender should be able to verify this, and an expired filing typically doesn't need a formal termination. Worth checking before you go through all the hassle of tracking down the acquiring bank.

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This is excellent advice! I completely overlooked the 5-year lapse rule. @Mae Bennett, before you go through all the hassle of contacting the acquiring bank or filing regulatory complaints, definitely have your new lender run a current UCC search first. If that 2017 filing has already expired, you could potentially move forward with your refinancing immediately. Even if a continuation was filed, at least you'll know exactly what you're dealing with. It's always better to understand the current status before investing time in more complex solutions.

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This is such a crucial point that @Miguel Diaz raises! As someone new to this community but dealing with similar UCC issues, I can t'believe how many people myself (included jump) straight to the termination headache without checking if the filing is even still valid. The 5-year automatic lapse rule is designed exactly for situations like this. @Mae Bennett, definitely worth having your lender pull that current search first - could save you weeks of chasing down unresponsive banks if the filing already expired in 2022.

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