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Mei Liu

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Glad you got it sorted out! Texas Article 9 UCC system definitely keeps us on our toes. For anyone reading this later - always verify debtor names character by character against the official state records.

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Great advice. I'm going to bookmark this thread for future reference.

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Amara Chukwu

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Yeah this whole discussion is really helpful. The period issue is something I never would have thought to check for.

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Ethan Taylor

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As someone new to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly educational! I had no idea that something as small as a missing period could cause rejections. It sounds like Texas really requires character-by-character precision. Question for the group - are there other states that are similarly strict about debtor name matching, or is Texas uniquely challenging? I want to make sure I'm prepared when I start handling Article 9 filings in different jurisdictions.

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AaliyahAli

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Just wanted to add that when dealing with individual debtors, it's also worth confirming that the person signing has the legal authority to grant the security interest in the collateral. With sole proprietorships this is usually straightforward since the individual owns the assets personally, but I've seen cases where equipment was titled in a spouse's name or jointly owned, which can complicate the UCC filing. Make sure your security agreement and UCC-1 accurately reflect who actually owns the collateral you're taking as security.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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This is such an important consideration that often gets overlooked. I had a deal fall apart because we discovered after funding that the construction equipment was actually purchased using marital funds and the spouse had a community property interest. Even though the borrower was operating the business, we needed both signatures on the security agreement. Always do your due diligence on asset ownership upfront.

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NebulaNomad

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Great advice about verifying ownership! I learned this the hard way on a trucking deal where the equipment was purchased jointly but only one spouse was on the loan. Had to go back and get additional documentation. For construction equipment especially, it's worth asking upfront how the assets were acquired and whether there are any co-owners or liens from the purchase financing.

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Great discussion here! One additional tip I'd add is to also verify the debtor's address carefully. I've seen UCC-1 filings get rejected because the address didn't match what was on the driver's license or state ID. Some states are very strict about this. Also, if John Michael Rodriguez has moved recently, make sure you're using his current address as it appears on his most recent ID document. For individual debtors, consistency between the name and address on your UCC-1 and their government-issued ID is crucial for perfection.

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This is such valuable advice about address verification! I'm new to UCC filings and hadn't considered how strict states can be about matching addresses exactly. Does this mean if someone has recently moved but hasn't updated their driver's license yet, we'd need to wait for them to get a new ID before filing? Or are there alternative acceptable forms of government ID we could use instead?

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ApolloJackson

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I'd also recommend using Certana.ai's verification tool once you get all the search results back. Even with premium search services, it's worth double-checking that everything aligns properly with your loan documents and corporate records. The automated cross-checking catches things that manual review sometimes misses.

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Rajiv Kumar

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How long does the verification process typically take?

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ApolloJackson

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Pretty much instant once you upload the PDFs. Way faster than doing manual cross-checks.

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Ethan Taylor

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As someone who's handled UCC searches for smaller deals, I can confirm the pricing variation is wild. I've found that mid-tier search companies often offer the best value - they provide better analysis than the bargain options but don't have the premium pricing of the big names. For your 6-state search, I'd recommend getting quotes from at least 3 different vendors and specifically asking what their analysis includes. Some will flag potential issues with financing statements that could affect your collateral position, while others just dump the raw filings on you. Also worth asking if they include lien searches in adjacent counties where the target has facilities - sometimes local liens don't show up in the main UCC databases.

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Jayden Hill

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Great point about the mid-tier companies. I'm curious about the adjacent county lien searches you mentioned - how much does that typically add to the cost? And do you have any recommendations for which mid-tier companies have given you good results? I'm trying to balance thoroughness with budget constraints on this deal.

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Kevin Bell

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Just want to add that timing is crucial here. If you're getting close to your amendment deadline, you might want to consider filing a paper UCC-3 as a backup while you sort out the PDF issues. Paper filings take longer to process but at least you'll meet the deadline.

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Kevin Bell

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Three weeks should be plenty of time to resolve the PDF issues, but having a paper backup plan isn't a bad idea if you're dealing with a critical amendment.

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Fiona Sand

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Definitely get the content verified first though - no point in filing a paper version if there are underlying issues with the debtor name or collateral descriptions that will cause rejection regardless of format.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's relatively new to UCC filings, I'm taking notes on all these potential pitfalls. It sounds like there are so many technical issues that can cause rejections beyond just the obvious content errors. A few questions for the group: 1) Is there a preferred PDF creation software that tends to work best with state filing systems? 2) Are there any other common formatting mistakes newcomers should watch out for? 3) How long does it typically take for the Secretary of State to process a UCC-3 once it's accepted? Want to make sure I avoid these issues when I inevitably need to file amendments down the road.

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Ellie Lopez

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The key thing to remember is that UCC-11 is just the form number for requesting an official search. It's not a special type of filing or anything mysterious. Every state has their own version but they all serve the same purpose - giving you an official record of UCC filings for a debtor.

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Thanks for clarifying that. I was making it more complicated than it needed to be.

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Paige Cantoni

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Yeah it's really just a formal way to request what you might be able to find online anyway, but with legal certification backing up the results.

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Nia Harris

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One practical tip - when you're dealing with multi-state equipment collateral like yours, consider timing your UCC-11 searches strategically. Since you mentioned this is for perfecting your own security interest, order the searches close to your filing date so you get the most current picture possible. UCC filings can happen quickly and you don't want to rely on search results that are weeks old when you're ready to close. Also, keep copies of all the UCC-11 certificates in your deal file - they're great evidence of your due diligence if priority disputes come up later.

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StarSurfer

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That's excellent advice about timing the searches close to filing. I hadn't thought about the gap between when you run searches and when you actually file - a lot can happen in that window. For something this complex with multi-state equipment, keeping those search certificates as documentation of proper due diligence makes total sense. Better to have that paper trail if questions come up down the road.

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Great point about timing! I learned this the hard way on a deal last year where we ran searches two weeks before closing and missed a filing that happened three days before we submitted our UCC-1. The lender wasn't happy when we discovered the gap during post-closing review. Now I always recommend doing searches within 48-72 hours of filing, especially for high-value equipment collateral where multiple lenders might be circling.

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