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Norman Fraser

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This thread is really helpful. I have a similar deal coming up next week and was dreading figuring out the UCC filing requirements. Sounds like individual as debtor, file in LLC's formation state, and be comprehensive with the collateral description.

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Aidan Percy

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Yeah, that seems to be the consensus. Glad this discussion helped both of us figure it out.

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Always good to see these concepts click for people. LLC interest as collateral trips up a lot of folks initially.

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Camila Jordan

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This is such a valuable discussion! I'm new to handling secured transactions and this LLC membership interest collateral scenario seems really complex. One thing I'm wondering about - when you file the UCC-1 against the individual member in the LLC's state of organization, do you also need to worry about where the individual debtor is located for any additional filings? Or does filing in Delaware (where the LLC was formed) cover everything? Also, for a $350K deal like this, are there any additional due diligence steps beyond just getting the UCC filing right? Thanks for all the insights everyone has shared here.

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Ruby Blake

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Just processed 8 amendments in Washington last week and the total fees were exactly $96 ($12 each). The electronic filing system worked smoothly and all were accepted within 24 hours.

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Jason Brewer

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That's encouraging. Sounds like as long as we're careful with the details, the process should be straightforward for our batch of 15.

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The key is double-checking everything before submitting. Washington's system is reliable but unforgiving of errors.

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As someone new to UCC filings in Washington, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm working on my first batch of amendments and was completely lost on the fee structure. The $12 per amendment seems consistent across everyone's experiences. Quick question - when you mention document verification tools like Certana.ai, do they work for other states too or just Washington? We're expanding operations to Oregon and California soon and want to avoid rejection fees there as well.

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Raul Neal

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For future reference, when dealing with any credit union UCC filings, always check both their current legal name AND their DBA registrations. Some credit unions operate under multiple names which can complicate things.

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Good point. Though for UCC purposes you want the legal entity name, not the DBA. But worth checking both to understand the full picture.

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Raul Neal

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Exactly. DBA won't work for UCC filing but it helps explain why loan documents might show different name variations.

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This thread is incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar issue with a local credit union in Oregon where their security agreement shows the old full name but they've since rebranded. Based on what everyone's shared here, sounds like I need to verify their current legal name through the state corporations database and file using that, regardless of what the security agreement says. Has anyone had pushback from lenders when the UCC debtor name doesn't exactly match the security agreement language? My loan officer is being pretty rigid about "exact matches" but it seems like that's not actually required as long as it's clearly the same entity.

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You're absolutely on the right track! I've dealt with this exact scenario multiple times. The key is that the UCC filing must use the current legal entity name from state records, not what's written in older loan documents. As for lender pushback - I usually explain it this way: the security agreement creates the security interest, but the UCC filing is just the public notice system. As long as it's obviously the same entity (which it is with credit union rebrandings), there's no enforceability issue. You might want to get a legal opinion letter if your loan officer remains concerned, but this is pretty standard practice in commercial lending.

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Update us when you get this resolved! I'm dealing with something similar and want to know what approach works best.

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Quinn Herbert

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Will do. I'm going to call them tomorrow with specific questions about filing timeline and reference number. If that doesn't work I'll try the written demand approach.

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Nasira Ibanez

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Good plan. Document everything - dates, who you spoke with, what they promised. Makes it easier to escalate if needed.

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As someone new to this whole UCC process, reading through all these responses really helps clarify what UCC termination meaning actually is. It sounds like the key takeaway is that termination (via UCC-3 filing) is legally required after loan payoff, while lapse is just what happens after 5 years if nothing is done. Quinn, I'd definitely recommend the written demand approach that Aliyah mentioned - seems like phone calls aren't getting you anywhere after 6 weeks. Also interesting to see multiple people mention using Certana.ai to verify their documents match up correctly. Might be worth checking your original UCC-1 filing to make sure there aren't any name discrepancies that could be causing delays or issues with your new lender.

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Avery Saint

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Sophie, you've summarized this really well! As someone also new to UCC filings, I was getting confused by all the different terms too. The distinction between termination and lapse is super important - I had no idea there was a difference. Your point about checking for name discrepancies is spot on. It seems like a lot of these delays and issues come from simple clerical errors that could have been caught early with proper document verification. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly for us newcomers!

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Vince Eh

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Great to hear about the successful resolution! This thread is really helpful for understanding ARR status timelines. I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - filed a UCC-1 for inventory financing three days ago and just got the ARR status today. Based on everyone's experiences here, sounds like I should expect resolution within the next 2-3 business days. The consistency in timing (4-6 business days) across different people's experiences is reassuring. Thanks for creating this discussion - it's exactly what I needed to find!

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Diego Rojas

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Welcome to the community! Your timeline sounds right on track based on what everyone shared here. I'm actually new to UCC filings myself and this thread has been incredibly educational. It's great to see how supportive everyone is in sharing their experiences. The 4-6 day pattern for ARR resolution seems pretty consistent across different filing types. Hope your inventory financing clears smoothly! Also definitely going to look into that Certana.ai tool that several people mentioned - seems like it could save a lot of stress for future filings.

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Kara Yoshida

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As someone who's been through this exact situation, I can confirm that ARR status is nerve-wracking but usually resolves well! I had the same code appear on a UCC-1 for construction equipment financing about 6 months ago. Mine took 4 business days to clear and turned out they were just verifying the equipment manufacturer information I provided. The fact that your debtor name matches your loan docs exactly and your collateral descriptions are detailed suggests everything should process normally. One thing I learned from that experience is to always take screenshots of your filing confirmation and status updates - it helps if you need to follow up with the SOS office directly. Also, since you mentioned this is for a $180k equipment loan, you might want to give your lender a heads up about the potential delay so they can adjust the closing timeline if needed. Most lenders are familiar with UCC processing times and won't be concerned about a few extra days for manual review.

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