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Emma Taylor

What is actual unemployment vs what Washington ESD considers unemployment?

I'm really confused about what Washington ESD actually considers 'unemployment' for benefits. I thought unemployment meant you don't have a job, but I'm seeing all these different rules about partial unemployment, standby status, and able and available requirements. Like if I work 10 hours one week am I still unemployed? What about if I'm on call but don't get scheduled? The Washington ESD website has so much info but it's hard to understand what actually qualifies. Can someone explain what counts as actual unemployment for UI benefits?

Washington ESD defines unemployment differently than just 'not having a job.' You can be partially unemployed if you work reduced hours or earn less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5. Total unemployment means you worked less than full-time and earned under that threshold. There's also able and available requirements - you have to be physically and mentally capable of work and actively seeking employment.

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So if I normally work 40 hours but only got 15 hours last week, that would be partial unemployment?

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Exactly. You'd report those 15 hours and wages on your weekly claim, and Washington ESD would calculate a reduced benefit amount.

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The standby thing is confusing too. I'm on standby with my employer but haven't worked in 3 weeks. Washington ESD approved me for standby status but I still have to do the job search stuff which seems weird if I'm expecting to go back to work.

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Standby status is for temporary layoffs when you expect to return within 8 weeks. You still need to register with WorkSourceWA and meet work search requirements unless specifically waived.

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Nobody told me about registering with WorkSource when I applied. Do I need to do that retroactively?

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I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks to clarify my situation but can't get through. The phone system is impossible - either busy signals or I get disconnected after waiting an hour. Found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that actually got me connected to a real person at Washington ESD. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Finally got my questions answered about partial unemployment rules.

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How much does that cost? I've been trying to call for 2 weeks with no luck.

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It was worth it for me since I needed to clarify my work search requirements. Much better than spending hours on hold for nothing.

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The able and available part trips people up. You can't be on vacation, sick, or have other commitments that prevent you from accepting suitable work. Even if you're not working, if you're not genuinely available for employment, you don't qualify for that week.

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What if you have an interview scheduled? Are you still considered available?

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Yes, job interviews actually support your work search requirement. You're still able and available even with scheduled interviews.

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I got denied for a week because I had jury duty. Apparently that makes you not available for work even though it's required by law.

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this is all so complicated!! I just want to know if I can get benefits while working part time at target. I used to work full time there but they cut everyone's hours after the holidays. some weeks I get 20 hours some weeks 12 hours.

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You should definitely apply for partial unemployment benefits. Report your hours and wages each week when you file your weekly claim. Washington ESD will calculate if you're eligible for reduced benefits.

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do I still have to look for jobs if I already have a job at target?

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Yes, you still need to conduct work search activities even with partial employment. You're looking for additional work to get back to full-time employment.

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The seasonal worker rules are different too. If you work seasonal jobs regularly, Washington ESD might determine you're not truly unemployed during off-seasons if that's your normal work pattern.

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That happened to my brother who does landscaping. They said his winter layoff was expected so he didn't qualify.

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Exactly. The key is whether unemployment is due to lack of work or if it's your normal employment pattern.

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Don't forget about the monetary determination too. You have to have earned enough wages in your base period to qualify. Just being unemployed isn't enough - you need sufficient work history and earnings.

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How do they calculate that? I worked most of last year but took a few months off.

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They look at the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. You need wages in at least 2 quarters and total wages of at least $3,850 in your base period.

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The gig economy makes this even more confusing. Uber drivers, DoorDash, freelancers - are they employed or unemployed? Most aren't eligible for regular UI unless they've been paying into the system as employees somewhere else.

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Independent contractors generally can't collect unemployment unless they have W-2 wages from other employment during their base period.

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But if your gig work drops significantly, you might qualify for partial benefits if you have other qualifying wages.

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I was denied initially because I quit my job, but it was due to unsafe working conditions. Had to appeal and prove it was for good cause. Voluntary quits usually disqualify you unless you meet specific criteria.

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Did you have to provide documentation about the unsafe conditions?

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Yes, I submitted photos, incident reports, and witness statements. The appeal hearing was stressful but I won.

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What about people who are laid off but offered a different position with the same company? Are they unemployed if they refuse the new job?

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If the new position is considered suitable work based on your skills, experience, and wage history, refusing it could disqualify you from benefits.

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How do they determine if work is 'suitable'? That seems really subjective.

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They consider factors like wages compared to your previous job, commuting distance, your skills and experience, and how long you've been unemployed.

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The whole system assumes unemployment is temporary and you're actively trying to get back to work. If you're not genuinely seeking employment or turn down suitable opportunities, you're not meeting the definition of unemployed for benefit purposes.

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This is why the work search requirements exist. You have to prove you're actively looking for work, not just collecting benefits.

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I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't reach anyone at Washington ESD about my claim status. The rep explained that being unemployed for benefits means meeting all these different criteria simultaneously - no work or reduced work, able and available, adequate wage history, and actively seeking employment. It's not just about not having a job.

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That makes sense. So unemployment for benefits is more like 'involuntarily without adequate work while actively seeking employment.

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Exactly! You nailed it. All those conditions have to be met each week you claim benefits.

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Another thing - you can be employed but still unemployed for UI purposes if your hours or wages drop significantly. I work in retail and my hours got cut from 35 to 15 per week. Washington ESD considers me partially unemployed.

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Same situation here. Restaurant industry has been unpredictable with scheduling. Some weeks I barely work at all.

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The partial unemployment benefits really help bridge the gap. Just make sure to report all hours and wages accurately.

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Students have special rules too. Full-time students usually can't collect unemployment during school periods unless they were working while attending school and meet other criteria.

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What about summer break? I'm a teacher aide and don't work summers.

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School employees have different rules. You might not be eligible during summer if you have reasonable assurance of returning to work in the fall.

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Military spouses face unique challenges too. Frequent moves can interrupt employment, but proving you're available for work while dealing with PCS moves gets complicated.

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I had to provide documentation about my spouse's military orders to explain why I left my previous job.

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Don't overlook the job search log requirements. You have to maintain records of your work search activities. Being unemployed means actively pursuing employment, not just being without work.

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How detailed do those logs need to be? I've been keeping track but worry it's not enough.

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Include employer name, position applied for, date, method of contact, and any follow-up. Washington ESD can audit these anytime.

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The bottom line is Washington ESD unemployment isn't just about lacking employment - it's about being involuntarily without adequate work while meeting ongoing eligibility requirements and actively seeking employment. It's a pretty specific definition that goes way beyond the common understanding of being unemployed.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I had no idea unemployment benefits had so many conditions beyond just not having a job.

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Same here. Definitely clarified a lot of confusion I had about partial unemployment and the requirements.

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If anyone else is struggling to get through to Washington ESD for clarification on their specific situation, I also had success with Claimyr. Sometimes you really need to talk to someone to understand how these rules apply to your particular circumstances.

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I'm definitely going to try that. Been stuck in phone hell trying to get answers about my standby status.

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