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What are two types of unemployment Washington ESD recognizes - regular UI vs standby?

I'm really confused about the different types of unemployment benefits available through Washington ESD. I keep hearing about regular unemployment insurance (UI) and something called standby unemployment, but I can't figure out what the difference is or which one I should be applying for. My employer laid me off last month but said they might call me back in a few weeks. Does anyone know what are the two main types of unemployment benefits and how do I know which category I fall into? I've been on the Washington ESD website but it's not super clear to me.

There are actually several types but the two main ones you're probably thinking of are regular unemployment insurance (UI) and standby unemployment. Regular UI is for people who are completely separated from their job and actively looking for new work. Standby is for people who are temporarily laid off but expect to return to the same employer within a specific timeframe.

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Ok that makes more sense! So since my employer said they might call me back, would I qualify for standby status instead of regular UI?

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Possibly, but there are specific requirements for standby. Your employer needs to provide a definite recall date within 12 weeks, and you can't actively search for other work while on standby status.

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wait im confused too - what about partial unemployment? isn't that a third type? i thought there was regular, partial, and standby

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Partial unemployment is more of a subcategory of regular UI. It's for people who are still working but had their hours significantly reduced. You still have to meet the job search requirements for partial UI benefits.

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That's interesting - I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days but keep getting the busy signal or getting disconnected. How does that service work exactly?

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You just give them your info and they keep calling Washington ESD until they get through, then they conference you in with the agent. Saved me hours of calling and redialing.

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THE WASHINGTON ESD SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN!!! I've been trying to figure out my claim type for weeks and nobody can give me a straight answer. Why is this so complicated?? Other states make this way easier to understand.

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I feel your frustration but honestly once you understand the basics it's not that bad. The key is knowing whether you're permanently separated or temporarily laid off with a recall date.

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For standby unemployment, Washington ESD requires a specific recall date in writing from your employer. If they just said 'hopefully in a few weeks' that's not definite enough. You'd need to file for regular UI and meet the job search requirements. You can always switch to standby later if your employer provides a definite recall date.

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That's really helpful! So I should probably just file for regular UI now and do the job search stuff, then if my employer gives me a specific date I can contact Washington ESD to switch to standby?

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Exactly. And make sure you keep documenting your job search activities in case you need to stay on regular UI. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week.

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omg same situation here! got laid off but they said they'd call us back when business picks up. been so confused about this whole thing

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Right? It's like they expect us to just automatically know all these rules. At least we're figuring it out together!

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Just to clarify the two main types for everyone: 1) Regular Unemployment Insurance (UI) - for permanent job separations, requires active job search, includes partial unemployment for reduced hours. 2) Standby Unemployment - for temporary layoffs with definite recall dates within 12 weeks, no job search required but you can't work elsewhere. Both have the same weekly benefit amount calculation.

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Perfect summary! That's exactly what I needed to understand. Thank you so much for breaking it down clearly.

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This is super helpful. I wish Washington ESD would put this explanation right on their main page instead of burying it in the FAQ section.

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so if i'm on standby and my employer doesn't call me back by the recall date, what happens then? do i automatically switch to regular UI?

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No, you have to contact Washington ESD to switch from standby to regular UI. They won't automatically convert it. And then you'd need to start doing job search activities from that point forward.

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I had to learn this the hard way - was on standby for 8 weeks waiting for my restaurant to reopen after renovations. When they pushed back the date again, I had to call Washington ESD to switch to regular UI. That's when I found out about Claimyr too because I couldn't get through on my own. Really wish I'd known about that service earlier.

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Wow 8 weeks is a long time to wait! Did you end up finding other work or did the restaurant eventually reopen?

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They did reopen but not until 12 weeks later, so I was glad I switched to regular UI and started job searching. Actually found a better job in the meantime!

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Quick question - does the weekly benefit amount differ between regular UI and standby? Or is it calculated the same way?

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The weekly benefit amount is calculated exactly the same way for both types. It's based on your wages from your base period quarters. The only difference is the eligibility requirements and whether you need to do job search activities.

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this thread is so helpful! ive been wondering about this for weeks but was too embarrassed to ask because i thought everyone else already knew

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Don't feel embarrassed! I was in the same boat. The unemployment system is confusing and Washington ESD doesn't always explain things in the clearest way.

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I'm a former Washington ESD worker and I can tell you that the standby vs regular UI confusion is one of the most common issues people call about. The key thing to remember is that standby is pretty restrictive - you need that definite recall date in writing and you can't work anywhere else while you're on standby status.

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That's really good insider info! So even if I wanted to do some gig work or temporary jobs while waiting for my employer to call me back, I couldn't do that on standby?

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Correct. On standby you're basically committed to that one employer. If you want flexibility to work elsewhere, regular UI is the better choice even if you're hoping to get called back.

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Wait so what about seasonal unemployment? Like if you work at a ski resort or something? Is that different from regular UI?

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Seasonal work typically falls under regular UI, but there are some special rules about base period calculations and benefit year timing. It's more complex than regular vs standby.

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Ah ok, that makes sense. Probably deserves its own thread to explain all those rules.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question last week and was on hold for 2 hours before giving up. Finally used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned and got through in like 20 minutes. The agent explained that most people should just file for regular UI unless they have a really specific recall situation with dates in writing.

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That's probably what I'll do then. My employer was too vague about the timing so regular UI sounds like the safer bet.

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Just want to add that you can also have a combination - like if you're on standby but your recall date gets pushed back, you can switch to regular UI for the extended period. It's not like you're locked into one type forever.

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That's a good point! Flexibility is important especially when employers aren't sure about their own timelines.

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thanks everyone for this discussion! i feel like i actually understand the difference now instead of just guessing

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Same here! This was exactly what I needed to figure out my next steps.

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For anyone still confused, I'd recommend checking out the Washington ESD handbook or calling them directly. But yeah, like others said, if calling doesn't work out, that Claimyr service seems to be pretty effective at getting you through to an actual person who can answer these questions.

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Good advice. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to get clarity on your specific situation.

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Bottom line: Regular UI for most people (with job search requirements), Standby for specific temporary layoffs with written recall dates. When in doubt, go with regular UI since it's more flexible.

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Perfect summary! That's exactly the guidance I needed. Going to file for regular UI tomorrow and start my job search activities.

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Zane Gray

I just went through this same situation a few months ago and it was definitely confusing at first! One thing that helped me was understanding that if your employer is being vague about the callback timeline (like saying "maybe in a few weeks"), you're almost certainly better off filing for regular UI. The standby requirements are really strict - they need to give you an exact date in writing, and like others mentioned, you can't do any other work while you wait. I ended up going with regular UI even though my employer hinted they might call me back, and I'm glad I did because it gave me the flexibility to apply for other jobs and do some freelance work to make ends meet. The job search requirement isn't too bad - just 3 activities per week and you can count things like updating your resume or networking.

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