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What does lack of work mean for Washington ESD unemployment eligibility?

I'm confused about the 'lack of work' requirement for unemployment benefits. My hours got cut from 40 to 15 per week at my retail job, and I'm not sure if this qualifies as lack of work for Washington ESD purposes. Do I need to be completely laid off, or can reduced hours count? I've been working there for 2 years and this is my first time dealing with unemployment. The online application asks about 'lack of work' but doesn't really explain what that means exactly.

Lack of work means you're unemployed through no fault of your own - layoffs, business closures, or significant hour reductions like yours. You can definitely file for partial unemployment benefits if your hours were cut. Washington ESD considers it lack of work when your employer reduces your schedule significantly.

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That's a relief! I wasn't sure if I qualified since I'm still technically employed. Do I need to prove the hour reduction was beyond my control?

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Washington ESD may ask for documentation from your employer about the hour reduction, but usually they verify this during the claims process. Just be honest about your situation when filing.

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lack of work basically means you didnt quit or get fired for misconduct. hour cuts definitely count, i got partial benefits when my restaurant cut everyone's shifts during slow season

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Same here! My construction job went from full-time to maybe 20 hours a week during winter. Washington ESD approved my partial claim right away.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the adjudication process.

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Never heard of that service before. Did they actually help you talk to someone at Washington ESD?

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I might have to try that if I can't get through. The phone lines are always busy when I call.

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Washington ESD defines lack of work pretty broadly. It includes layoffs, hour reductions, seasonal work ending, temporary work assignments ending, and business closures. The key is that it's not your fault and not due to misconduct.

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What about if your job ended because of poor performance? Would that still count as lack of work?

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No, that would likely be considered a discharge for misconduct, which could disqualify you from benefits. Washington ESD investigates these cases pretty thoroughly.

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about this but it's buried in their eligibility requirements. Basically if your employer can't provide you with work or reduces your hours significantly, that's lack of work. It's different from quitting or being fired for cause.

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I looked at their website but found it confusing. Is there a specific percentage that hours need to be reduced by?

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There's no specific percentage, but generally if your hours are reduced enough that you're earning less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you can file for partial benefits.

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been through this before. lack of work = not your fault you're unemployed. hour cuts, layoffs, company downsizing, all that counts. just dont quit or get yourself fired and you should be good

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Thanks, that makes sense. I definitely didn't do anything wrong, just slow business at the store.

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I think there's some confusion here about what constitutes lack of work. My understanding is that it has to be a complete separation from employment, not just reduced hours. When I worked at Washington ESD years ago, partial unemployment was a different category entirely.

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That's not accurate anymore. Washington ESD definitely considers significant hour reductions as lack of work for partial unemployment benefits. The rules have evolved over the years.

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You might be right, it's been a while since I worked there. I just remember it being more strict about complete job separation.

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The current Washington ESD guidelines are clear that involuntary hour reductions qualify as lack of work. You can verify this on their website under partial unemployment benefits.

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My sister went through this exact situation. Her retail job cut her hours from full-time to part-time due to budget cuts. Washington ESD approved her partial claim within two weeks. The key was documenting that the hour reduction was the employer's decision, not hers.

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That's encouraging! Did she need to provide any specific documentation from her employer?

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They asked for her pay stubs showing the hour reduction and a brief statement from her manager confirming it was due to business needs, not performance issues.

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honestly the whole system is confusing. i had to call washington esd like 50 times before someone could explain what lack of work means. basically if you're not working through no fault of your own, thats it

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50 times?! That's crazy. I've been trying to get through for a week now with no luck.

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For anyone still confused, here's the simple test: Did you lose work or have your hours significantly reduced due to business reasons beyond your control? If yes, that's lack of work. If you quit or were fired for misconduct, that's not lack of work.

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Perfect, that's exactly what happened to me. Business is slow so they cut everyone's hours.

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What if you were scheduled for fewer hours but it was because you requested it? Would that still count?

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No, if you requested the hour reduction, that wouldn't qualify as lack of work since it was your choice.

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the adjudication process for lack of work claims is usually pretty straightforward unless there's some question about why you lost work. most get approved automatically if its clearly a layoff or hour reduction

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That's good to know. I was worried about getting stuck in adjudication for weeks.

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Washington ESD actually has three main categories for unemployment: lack of work, discharge (being fired), and voluntary quit. Lack of work is the easiest to qualify for since it's not your fault. Hour reductions definitely fall under this category.

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Thanks for breaking that down. I wasn't sure about the different categories.

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So since my hours were cut due to slow business, I should select 'lack of work' when filing my claim?

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Exactly. That's the correct category for your situation.

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been dealing with this for months. lack of work is when your employer cant give you work, not when you choose not to work. seasonal layoffs, hour cuts, business closures - all lack of work

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Months? Are you still having issues with your claim?

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nah, claim got approved. just been dealing with the job search requirements and weekly claims since then

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The Washington ESD handbook explains this pretty well if you can find it online. Lack of work means your unemployment is due to economic factors, not personal factors. Your hour reduction fits perfectly into this definition.

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I'll look for that handbook online. Thanks for the tip!

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I was in adjudication for 3 weeks because Washington ESD needed to verify my hour reduction was actually due to lack of work and not performance issues. Once they confirmed with my employer, everything got approved retroactively.

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Did your employer have to fill out any special forms?

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They just had to respond to a phone call from Washington ESD confirming the reason for the hour reduction. Took about 5 minutes.

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remember that even if you qualify for partial benefits due to lack of work, you still need to meet all the other requirements like being able and available for work and doing your job search activities

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Good point. I'll make sure to keep up with the job search requirements even though I'm still working part-time.

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Had a similar situation at my warehouse job. Hours got cut from 40 to 25 per week due to reduced demand. Filed for partial unemployment and got approved within 10 days. Washington ESD was pretty understanding about the lack of work situation.

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That gives me hope! I'm going to file my claim this weekend.

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Make sure you have your pay stubs ready when you file. Washington ESD will want to see the difference in your earnings.

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For what it's worth, I tried calling Washington ESD dozens of times to get clarification on this exact question. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got through to an agent who explained everything clearly. Worth trying if you can't get through the normal way.

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I'm definitely considering that option. The phone lines are impossible to get through on.

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Is Claimyr expensive? I'm already strapped for cash with reduced hours.

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I found it worth the cost to actually talk to someone instead of wasting hours on hold getting nowhere. They focus on helping you understand your situation rather than just selling you something.

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Bottom line: if your employer reduced your hours due to business needs and it wasn't your choice or fault, that's textbook lack of work. File for partial unemployment benefits and you should be approved without issues.

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Perfect summary. Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! I feel much more confident about filing my claim now.

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Just went through this exact situation myself! My hours at the grocery store got cut from 35 to 20 per week due to corporate budget cuts. Washington ESD approved my partial unemployment claim in about a week. The key thing they look for is that the hour reduction was involuntary and due to business reasons, not performance or attendance issues. Make sure you can document that your employer made the decision to cut hours - keep any emails, schedules, or notices they gave you about the reduction. The partial benefits really helped bridge the gap while I looked for additional work. Good luck with your claim!

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