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Emma Bianchi

Washington ESD weekly claim showing wage cuts from 1930s affecting my base period calculation?

This might sound weird but I'm looking at my Washington ESD benefit calculation and something seems off with how they're calculating my base period wages. I had some wage cuts at my last job before I got laid off, and now my weekly benefit amount seems way lower than it should be. The adjudicator mentioned something about wage reductions affecting the calculation but I don't understand how cuts from the 1930s could impact my current claim. Has anyone else dealt with Washington ESD using historical wage data or old employment records in their benefit calculations? I'm really confused about what wage cuts and unemployment from the 1930s have to do with my 2025 claim.

I think there might be some confusion here about what the adjudicator meant. Washington ESD uses your wages from the last 4-5 quarters before you filed, not anything from the 1930s. When they mention wage cuts, they're probably talking about recent reductions in your pay that affected your base period calculation.

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That makes more sense! So they're looking at the wage cuts I had in 2024, not some historical data from decades ago?

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Exactly. Your base period is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed your claim.

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Wait, I'm having a similar issue with Washington ESD and can't get through to anyone on the phone to explain my benefit calculation. The automated system just keeps hanging up on me after waiting for hours.

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The 1930s reference is definitely confusing but your wage cuts from your recent employment would definitely impact your weekly benefit amount. Washington ESD calculates your weekly benefit based on your highest earning quarter in your base period, so if you had significant wage reductions before getting laid off, that could lower your benefits.

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So if I took a 20% pay cut six months before getting laid off, that would affect my unemployment benefits?

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Yes, because that reduced wage would be part of your base period calculation. The timing matters a lot with Washington ESD benefit calculations.

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omg the washington esd system is so confusing!! i filed my claim 2 weeks ago and still dont understand how they calculate anything. why cant they just make it simple???

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I know right? The whole base period thing is unnecessarily complicated. They should just base it on your last few paychecks.

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The reason they use a longer base period is to get a more accurate picture of your typical earnings and avoid seasonal fluctuations affecting your benefits.

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Just went through this same thing with my Washington ESD claim. Had my hours cut dramatically in late 2024 and it definitely impacted my weekly benefit amount. The key is understanding which quarters they're using for your base period calculation.

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How did you figure out which quarters they were using? My determination letter doesn't break it down clearly.

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You can log into your SecureAccess Washington account and look at the monetary determination. It should show the wages from each quarter they used.

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Thanks! I'll check that right now.

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The Washington ESD system is such a joke. They make everything so complicated that nobody understands what's happening with their own benefits. And good luck trying to call them to get answers!

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already struggling financially.

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I found it worth it considering how much time I was wasting trying to call on my own. Plus getting my benefits resolved faster was crucial.

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I think you might want to request an alternate base period calculation if your recent wage cuts are hurting your benefit amount. Washington ESD sometimes allows this if your most recent quarters show higher earnings.

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How do I request that? Is there a specific form I need to fill out?

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You'll need to contact Washington ESD directly to request it. They'll evaluate whether you qualify based on your wage pattern.

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wait are we talking about the great depression or current unemployment benefits?? im so confused lol

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The original poster was confused about something their adjudicator said. We're talking about current Washington ESD unemployment benefits and how recent wage cuts affect the calculation.

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oh ok that makes way more sense haha

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Had a similar situation where my base period included months when I was working reduced hours due to company cutbacks. Really hurt my weekly benefit amount. The system doesn't account for temporary reductions very well.

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Did you try to appeal or get it recalculated?

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I tried but Washington ESD said the calculation was correct based on the wages reported. Very frustrating.

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The whole base period system seems designed to give people less money. If you had any bad quarters in that timeframe, you're screwed.

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That's not really accurate. The system is designed to base benefits on your typical earnings pattern. It's not perfect but there's logic to it.

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Easy to say when it's not your rent that's due.

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OP - definitely look into whether Washington ESD used the correct quarters for your calculation. I've seen them make mistakes with base period determinations before.

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How would I know if they made a mistake? What should I be looking for?

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Check that they used the right date ranges and that all your reported wages are included. Compare it to your tax records or pay stubs.

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This thread is making me realize I probably need to challenge my own benefit calculation. I had a major pay cut right before getting laid off too.

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Same here. I didn't realize the timing of pay cuts could affect benefits so much.

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The key is understanding your specific base period dates and whether an alternate calculation might work better for your situation.

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Washington ESD really needs to do a better job explaining how benefit amounts are calculated. The determination letters are so confusing.

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Agreed. I had to Google everything just to understand what my letter meant.

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And then when you try to call for clarification, good luck getting through to anyone.

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That's the second time someone mentioned that service. I might have to try it since I still don't fully understand my calculation.

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It's definitely worth it if you're stuck trying to reach them through normal channels. The wait times are just impossible otherwise.

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Bottom line - wage cuts before unemployment will likely reduce your weekly benefit amount because Washington ESD bases it on your earnings during specific quarters in your base period. The 1930s thing was definitely a misunderstanding!

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Thanks everyone for clearing that up! I was so confused about the historical reference. Now I understand it's about my recent wage history affecting the calculation.

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Glad we could help! The unemployment system terminology can be really confusing at first.

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