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Anna Kerber

Washington ESD unemployment eligibility after getting fired - am I qualified?

I just got terminated from my job yesterday and I'm honestly not sure if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they never gave me proper training or feedback. I've been working there for about 8 months. Does Washington ESD approve claims when you get fired? I'm really stressed about my finances and need to know if it's even worth applying or if I'll just get denied.

You can definitely apply! Washington ESD evaluates each case individually. If you were fired for reasons other than misconduct, you may still qualify. Performance issues don't automatically disqualify you, especially if you can show you were trying to do your job properly. The key is whether it was willful misconduct or just not being able to meet job requirements.

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That's reassuring to hear. They never wrote me up or anything, just said I wasn't meeting expectations. Should I mention that in my application?

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Yes, definitely include all the details about lack of training, no written warnings, etc. Washington ESD needs the full picture to make a fair determination.

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same thing happened to me last year, got fired for 'performance' but really they just didn't like me. Still got approved for UI benefits after they investigated.

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How long did the investigation take? I'm worried about how long I'll be without income.

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took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision, but I got backpay for those weeks once approved

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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely check that out if I run into issues getting through to someone.

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Never heard of that service but calling Washington ESD is definitely a nightmare. Might be worth trying if you get stuck.

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WAIT don't get your hopes up too much. I got fired for being late too many times and Washington ESD denied my claim. They said it was misconduct. Really depends on why you got fired.

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Being late repeatedly is different from performance issues though. That's more about following workplace rules versus ability to do the job.

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true I guess, but they're pretty strict about misconduct. Just saying don't assume you'll get approved.

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Apply anyway! Even if you're not sure, let Washington ESD make the decision. The worst they can do is say no, but you might be surprised. I thought I wouldn't qualify after getting fired but I did.

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You're right, I should at least try. What's the worst that could happen?

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Exactly! And if they deny you, you can always appeal the decision. Don't give up without trying.

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The main thing Washington ESD looks for is whether you were fired for misconduct or just couldn't do the job well enough. Misconduct is things like stealing, being drunk, fighting, repeatedly violating rules. Poor performance usually isn't misconduct unless you were deliberately doing bad work.

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That helps clarify things. I definitely wasn't doing anything wrong on purpose, just struggling with the workload.

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Struggling with workload is not misconduct. You should be fine as long as you were trying your best.

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I work in HR and see this a lot. Most terminations for performance don't result in unemployment denials unless there's clear evidence the employee wasn't trying or was violating company policies. Document everything you can remember about your termination meeting.

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That's really helpful insight. I'm going to write down everything I remember while it's still fresh.

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Great advice. Having detailed notes will help if Washington ESD has questions during their investigation.

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honestly the unemployment system is so broken, you never know what they'll decide. I've seen people get denied for stupid reasons and others get approved when they probably shouldn't have. Just apply and see what happens.

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That's not very helpful. The system has clear rules, it's not just random.

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maybe in theory but I've seen plenty of inconsistent decisions from Washington ESD

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File your claim as soon as possible! Even if it takes time to get approved, your benefits start from the week you file, not when they approve it. Don't wait around wondering if you qualify.

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Good point, I'll file today. Better to start the process now rather than lose time.

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Yes, and make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even if the initial claim is still being reviewed.

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When I got fired last year for performance issues, the Washington ESD investigator asked me a bunch of questions about whether I received training, feedback, warnings, etc. Be prepared to explain your side of the story in detail.

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What kind of questions did they ask? I want to be prepared for the interview.

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They asked about my job duties, what specific performance issues were mentioned, what help I asked for, if I got any warnings. Pretty thorough.

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If you do get denied initially, don't panic. You can appeal the decision and often win on appeal if you have a good case. Many people give up after the first denial but the appeals process exists for a reason.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if they deny you?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file your appeal. Don't wait until the last minute though.

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I had a similar situation where I couldn't reach Washington ESD for weeks to discuss my case. A friend told me about Claimyr and it was a game changer. Worth checking out if you need to talk to someone there quickly.

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Several people have mentioned that service now. Must be pretty helpful for getting through to ESD.

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I used it too when I had adjudication issues. Definitely beats sitting on hold for hours.

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Make sure you have all your employment information ready when you file - dates of employment, reason for separation, employer contact info. Having everything organized will make the process smoother.

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Thanks, I'll gather all that information before I start the application.

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Also have your Social Security number and bank account info ready if you want direct deposit.

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The fact that you're worried about this shows you're taking it seriously. Most people who get denied are those who clearly violated rules or policies. Performance issues are usually not disqualifying unless there's misconduct involved.

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Thank you, that gives me some confidence. I'm going to file my claim today.

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Good luck! Remember to keep looking for work while your claim is being processed. Washington ESD requires job search activities.

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Just went through this exact situation 2 months ago. Got fired for not meeting sales goals but Washington ESD approved my claim because I was trying my best and they didn't provide adequate training. You should be fine.

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That's really encouraging to hear. Sounds like our situations are pretty similar.

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Sales goals are tough, especially without proper training. Glad you got approved!

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Don't forget that even if you qualify, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. Plan accordingly for your finances.

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How long is the waiting period usually?

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There's typically a one-week waiting period, but it can be longer if they need to investigate your case.

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I'm skeptical of those third-party calling services people keep mentioning, but I have to admit when I was desperate to reach Washington ESD about my adjudication, I tried Claimyr and it actually worked. Got through to an agent the same day.

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At this point I'm willing to try anything if it helps get answers faster.

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Same here, the regular phone system is just impossible to get through on.

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Bottom line - if you weren't stealing, drinking on the job, or deliberately sabotaging your work, you probably qualify. Performance issues alone rarely disqualify people from unemployment benefits in Washington.

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That's reassuring. I definitely wasn't doing anything like that, just couldn't keep up with the demands.

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Exactly. There's a big difference between can't do the job and won't do the job.

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File your claim today and start your job search immediately. Even if your claim gets approved, you need to show you're actively looking for work. Keep good records of your job search activities.

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Will do. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. I feel much more confident about applying now.

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You've got this! The hardest part is just starting the process.

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One last tip - be completely honest in your application and any interviews with Washington ESD. They'll find out the truth anyway, and being dishonest will definitely hurt your case.

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Absolutely, I plan to be completely truthful about everything. Thanks again everyone!

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