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Washington ESD unemployment compensation taxable for 2023 federal taxes?

I received unemployment benefits from Washington ESD throughout most of 2023 after getting laid off from my tech job in February. Just starting to think about tax season and I'm confused about whether my UI payments are considered taxable income for federal purposes. I got around $18,500 total in benefits last year. Washington ESD didn't automatically withhold federal taxes from my weekly claims - should I be worried about owing a bunch when I file? Anyone know how unemployment compensation gets treated on federal returns for the 2023 tax year?

Yes, unemployment benefits are fully taxable as ordinary income on your federal return for 2023. You should have received a 1099-G form from Washington ESD showing the total amount you received.

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I haven't gotten any 1099-G form yet. When does Washington ESD usually send those out?

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They're required to send them by January 31st. You can also access it online through your Washington ESD account if you haven't received it by mail yet.

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ugh same situation here, got like $15k in benefits and didnt have taxes taken out... gonna owe so much

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Right? I'm kicking myself for not having them withhold federal taxes when I was filing my weekly claims.

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How much does something like that cost? I've been trying to call about my 1099-G for weeks.

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It's worth checking out their site for details. I was just relieved to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of getting disconnected after waiting 2 hours.

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The tax treatment is straightforward - unemployment compensation gets reported as ordinary income on line 1h of Form 1040. If you didn't have federal taxes withheld, you'll likely owe estimated taxes plus potentially an underpayment penalty depending on your total tax situation for 2023.

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What determines if you get hit with the underpayment penalty? I did have a regular job for part of 2023 before the layoff.

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Generally if you owe less than $1,000 or paid at least 90% of current year taxes or 100% of prior year taxes through withholding/estimated payments, you avoid the penalty. Your W-2 withholding might cover you.

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I'm so confused by all this tax stuff. Do I need to file quarterly estimated taxes if I'm still getting unemployment benefits in 2024?

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For 2024, you can either have Washington ESD withhold federal taxes from your weekly claims or make quarterly estimated payments. The withholding option is usually easier.

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How do I set up the withholding? I don't see that option when I file my weekly claims online.

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You can request federal tax withholding by logging into your Washington ESD account and updating your payment preferences. They'll withhold 10% for federal taxes if you elect that option.

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Only 10%? That might not be enough depending on your tax bracket.

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True, 10% is the standard rate but you might need more withheld if you're in a higher bracket. You can always make estimated payments on top of the withholding.

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wait so the unemployment money I got in 2023 is the same as like regular job income for taxes? thats so dumb, we already lost our jobs

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I know it seems unfair but unemployment benefits have always been taxable income federally. Some states don't tax it but the feds always have.

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well this is gonna suck when i file my taxes then

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Does anyone know if Washington state taxes unemployment benefits? I know we don't have state income tax but want to make sure.

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Washington has no state income tax so you don't need to worry about state taxes on your unemployment benefits. Only federal taxes apply.

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I made the mistake of not having taxes withheld from my unemployment in 2022 and ended up owing like $3,000. Learned my lesson and had them withhold this time around.

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Ouch, $3,000 is rough. I'm definitely going to owe something substantial too. Did you set up a payment plan with the IRS?

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Yeah the IRS payment plan wasn't too bad to set up online. Just cost a small setup fee but beat trying to pay it all at once.

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The 1099-G form will show your total benefits in box 1. Make sure the amount matches what you actually received because sometimes there are errors, especially if you had any overpayments or adjustments during the year.

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Good point about checking the amount. I had an overpayment issue that got resolved but it might still show on the 1099-G.

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For anyone who needs to contact Washington ESD about 1099-G corrections or tax withholding questions, I had success using Claimyr again this week. Much faster than the regular phone lines which are swamped right now with tax season questions.

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I might have to try that. Been trying to reach someone about an error on my 1099-G for over a week.

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Just a heads up that if you received unemployment benefits and your total income for 2023 was under certain thresholds, you might qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit or other credits that could offset some of the tax on your benefits.

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That's good to know. I'll have to look into that when I start preparing my return.

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does anyone know if the american rescue plan thing that made unemployment tax free applies to 2023? or was that just for 2020?

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That was only for 2020 tax year. The American Rescue Plan Act excluded up to $10,200 of unemployment benefits from federal taxes for 2020 only. For 2023, all unemployment benefits are fully taxable.

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darn, was hoping it might still apply

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but I also received some overpayment notices from Washington ESD last year. Do I still report the full amount from the 1099-G even if I had to pay some back?

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You report the full amount from the 1099-G as income, then you can deduct any overpayments you repaid in the same tax year as an 'other deduction' on Schedule A if you itemize.

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That makes sense. I'll need to keep track of what I paid back then.

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For people worried about owing taxes, remember you can still make estimated tax payments for the 4th quarter of 2023 until January 16th, 2024 to reduce any underpayment penalty.

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Wait really? I thought the deadline for 2023 quarterly payments was already past.

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The 4th quarter payment for 2023 is due January 16, 2024, so there's still time to make a payment if you want to reduce your tax bill.

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This whole thread is making me nervous about my tax situation. I got unemployment for about 8 months in 2023 and never thought about the tax implications until now.

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Don't panic, just make sure you get your 1099-G and report the income correctly. If you owe more than you can pay at once, the IRS has payment plan options.

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One more plug for Claimyr if people are having trouble reaching Washington ESD about tax forms or any other issues. I've recommended it to several friends and they've all had good experiences getting through to actual agents.

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I'm definitely going to check that out. The regular Washington ESD phone lines are impossible right now.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info. At least now I know what to expect when I file my 2023 taxes. Definitely going to elect tax withholding if I need unemployment again.

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Same here. This thread has been really educational. Better to know now than be surprised later.

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One thing I learned the hard way - if you moved states during 2023 while receiving unemployment, make sure you understand which state's taxes apply. Can get complicated fast.

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Good point. I moved from California to Washington during my unemployment period and that created some confusion with my tax situation.

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Bottom line for everyone - unemployment compensation is ordinary income for federal tax purposes in 2023. No special treatment like there was in 2020. Plan accordingly and consider having taxes withheld if you're still receiving benefits.

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Perfect summary. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. Really helpful stuff.

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