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Washington ESD unemployment benefits after being fired - am I eligible?

I got terminated from my warehouse job last week and I'm trying to figure out if I can collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said I was let go for 'performance issues' but honestly I think they were just looking for reasons to cut staff. I've been working there for almost 2 years with no major write-ups. Can I still file for unemployment if I was fired? What does Washington ESD consider when deciding if you're eligible after termination?

Yes, you can usually collect unemployment even if you were fired, as long as it wasn't for 'misconduct.' Performance issues generally don't count as misconduct under Washington ESD rules. The key is whether your actions were willful violations of company policy or gross negligence.

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That's really helpful to know. They never said I violated any policies, just that my productivity wasn't meeting expectations. Should I mention this when I file my claim?

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Absolutely mention it in your application. Be honest about the reason for termination but explain your side of the story. Washington ESD will investigate both sides.

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You can still get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will look at whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or just poor performance. If it was performance issues and not intentional wrongdoing, you should be eligible. File your claim right away - the worst they can say is no.

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That's a relief! I was definitely not doing anything on purpose to hurt the company. How do I prove it wasn't misconduct though?

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Washington ESD will investigate by contacting your employer. They'll ask for documentation about why you were fired. If your employer can't prove misconduct, you'll likely get approved.

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The key thing to understand is that Washington ESD distinguishes between being fired for misconduct versus being fired for other reasons like poor performance, lack of skills, or personality conflicts. Misconduct means willful violation of company rules or standards. Simple incompetence or inability to do the job usually doesn't count as misconduct under Washington unemployment law.

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This is exactly what happened to me! I got fired for not meeting sales quotas but Washington ESD approved my claim because it wasn't misconduct.

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So complaining about safety issues definitely wouldn't be misconduct right? That seems like the responsible thing to do.

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I was in a similar situation last year - got fired for being late too many times but still got approved for benefits. The key difference is between being fired for misconduct vs. just not being a good fit or performance issues.

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How long did it take to get approved? I'm worried about paying my bills while I wait for a decision.

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Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an investigation. During that time my claim was in adjudication status on the Washington ESD website.

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I had a similar situation and spent weeks trying to get through to Washington ESD to check on my claim status. The phone lines are always busy and it's so frustrating when you need answers. I finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get connected to an actual agent. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already stressed about money.

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It was worth it for me to get answers quickly instead of calling for days. The peace of mind was huge when I was worried about my eligibility.

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The Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story. Make sure you document everything you can remember about your termination - dates, what was said, any warnings you received, etc.

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I didn't get any formal warnings, just verbal feedback about productivity. Is that going to hurt my case?

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Actually that might help you. If they didn't follow progressive discipline policies, it shows they weren't giving you a fair chance to improve.

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whatever you do dont lie on your application!! i know someone who got caught lying about why they were fired and it caused way more problems

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Definitely planning to be honest. I'm just nervous about how to word it properly.

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Just state the facts plainly. Something like 'terminated for performance issues' and then explain your perspective in the additional comments section.

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I've been through this process before and the Washington ESD is pretty fair about these situations. They understand that sometimes there are personality conflicts or unrealistic expectations from employers. The main thing they're looking for is willful misconduct.

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What exactly counts as misconduct though? I keep seeing different definitions online.

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Generally it's things like theft, violence, deliberately breaking rules, excessive unexcused absences, or insubordination. Poor performance alone usually doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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None of those apply to my situation, so that makes me feel better about my chances.

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ugh the whole system is ridiculous. They make it so hard to get benefits even when you deserve them. I got fired for being 5 minutes late too many times and had to fight for weeks to prove it wasn't serious misconduct.

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Chronic tardiness can actually be considered misconduct if you were warned about it repeatedly. But it sounds like you eventually got approved?

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yeah finally but it took forever and I almost lost my apartment waiting for the decision

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How long does Washington ESD usually take to make a decision when there's a dispute about whether being fired was misconduct?

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It varies, but typically 2-4 weeks for the initial determination. If your employer contests it, there might be an adjudication process that can take longer.

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Mine took 6 weeks! But I got backpay for the whole time once it was approved.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if you think you might not qualify, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. You can always appeal if they deny you initially.

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I was planning to file tomorrow. Is there a waiting period before benefits start?

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There's usually a one-week waiting period, but your claim date starts from when you file, not when it's approved.

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Make sure you file your claim immediately even if you're not sure about eligibility. You can't get benefits for weeks before you file, so don't wait. The Washington ESD website has all the info you need to get started.

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Good point, I'll file today. Better safe than sorry.

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Exactly! And document everything about why you were fired in case you need it for the claim review.

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The unemployment system is so confusing. I got fired from my retail job for attendance issues and I'm still waiting to hear back after 2 weeks. My claim is stuck in some kind of review process.

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That's probably adjudication - they're investigating your separation from work. You might want to try calling Washington ESD to check the status. I used Claimyr when I couldn't get through on my own and it actually worked.

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Is that some kind of calling service? I've been trying to reach them for days with no luck.

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Yeah, it helps you get through to an actual person at Washington ESD. Way better than sitting on hold for hours. Check out claimyr.com if you're interested.

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Also remember that even if you get approved for benefits, you'll still need to meet all the other requirements like actively looking for work and filing your weekly claims. Washington ESD is pretty strict about the job search documentation.

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How many job contacts do you need per week in Washington?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but check your specific requirements when you file your weekly claim.

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I think you have a good case especially if you were complaining about safety issues. That's protected activity and firing someone for that could actually be illegal retaliation, not just eligible for unemployment.

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I hadn't thought about that angle. Should I mention the safety complaints when I file my Washington ESD claim?

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Definitely mention it. It shows you were acting in good faith and not engaging in any misconduct.

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Make sure you start looking for work right away and keep track of your job search activities. Washington ESD requires you to be actively seeking employment to continue receiving benefits.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week, but check the Washington ESD website for the exact requirements. They can be applications, networking, interviews, etc.

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Just went through this whole process last month. Got fired for 'attitude problems' but Washington ESD approved my claim because my employer couldn't provide specific examples of misconduct. The key is that they have to prove you did something wrong on purpose.

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That gives me hope! Did you have to do anything special during the investigation?

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Just answered their questions honestly and provided my side of the story. I also kept records of my performance reviews which helped show it wasn't misconduct.

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dont worry too much about it, most people who get fired still qualify for unemployment unless they did something really bad like stealing or violence

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That's generally true, but there are other types of misconduct beyond just theft or violence. However, performance issues usually don't qualify as misconduct.

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Update on my earlier comment about Claimyr - I used them again this week to get through to Washington ESD about a different issue and it worked great. Really saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals.

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How exactly does that service work? Do they just call for you?

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They have a system that gets you connected to an actual Washington ESD agent without all the waiting and busy signals. Check out their demo video to see how it works.

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The thing that sucks is even if you qualify, the benefits are pretty low compared to what you were making. But it's better than nothing when you're job hunting.

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Yeah I'm expecting it won't be close to my full salary, but I need something to cover basic expenses while I look for work.

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One more important point - if Washington ESD denies your claim initially, you have the right to appeal. Many people don't realize this and just give up. The appeal process can overturn the initial decision if you have good grounds.

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Good to know! Hopefully it won't come to that, but I'll keep it in mind if needed.

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The appeal process saved me when I was initially denied. Sometimes the first review doesn't get all the facts straight.

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i got fired for missing too much work but it was because of medical issues. still got unemployment because it wasn't willful misconduct. washington esd was actually pretty fair about it

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Medical issues are usually treated differently than performance problems. Glad it worked out for you.

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Remember to keep detailed records of everything - the reason you were given for being fired, any documentation from your employer, dates, names of people involved. This will all be helpful if Washington ESD needs to investigate your claim.

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I have my termination letter and some emails about the safety issues I reported. Should I submit those with my claim?

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Hold onto them for now. Washington ESD will ask for documentation if they need it during their review process.

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The whole misconduct standard is pretty high in Washington. Unless you were doing something really egregious, most firings don't rise to that level. Performance issues, personality conflicts, even minor rule violations usually don't count.

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That's reassuring. I was really worried I'd be automatically disqualified just for being fired.

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Just make sure you file your weekly claims on time even while your initial claim is being reviewed. You don't want to miss out on benefits for weeks where you were eligible.

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Can you file weekly claims before your initial claim is approved?

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Yes, you should file weekly claims starting the week after you become unemployed, even if your claim is still pending.

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Another option if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD is to try calling early in the morning right when they open, or during lunch time when call volume might be lower.

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I've had luck calling right at 8am when they open. Still takes a while but better than other times of day.

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That's what I used to do before I found Claimyr. The service is just so much more reliable than trying to time the calls yourself.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I'm feeling much more confident about filing my claim now. I'll get started on the Washington ESD website today and keep all my documentation ready in case they need it.

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Good luck! Feel free to ask if you run into any issues with the process.

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You're doing the right thing by filing quickly. Most cases like yours get approved without too much trouble.

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One last tip - if you do get approved, make sure you understand the work search requirements from day one. Washington ESD can audit your job search activities and if you don't meet the requirements, they can stop your benefits.

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I'll definitely look into those requirements. Better to know upfront than get caught off guard later.

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Exactly. The WorkSourceWA website has good resources for understanding what counts as valid job search activities.

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been there done that. got fired for 'attitude problems' which was really just me standing up for myself when management was being unreasonable. still got my benefits because washington esd saw through their BS excuse

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That gives me hope. Did you have to go through an appeal process or anything?

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nope, they approved me after the initial investigation. took about a month total though which was stressful

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Just remember that even if Washington ESD approves your claim, your former employer might appeal their decision. Don't panic if that happens - you can still receive benefits while the appeal is being processed.

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Can employers really appeal after I'm already approved? That seems unfair.

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Yes, they have the right to appeal within 30 days. But like I said, you keep getting benefits during the appeal process as long as you continue to meet all other requirements.

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I'm going through something similar right now. Got terminated last month for 'not meeting sales goals' but I think they were just looking to cut commission costs. My claim is approved but I'm worried my employer is going to challenge it.

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At least you got approved! That's a good sign. How long did the whole process take?

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About 3 weeks from filing to getting my first payment. The hardest part was getting through to Washington ESD when I had questions about my claim status.

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That's exactly why I started using Claimyr - couldn't deal with the busy signals and long hold times anymore. Made the whole process so much less stressful.

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Don't forget to gather any documentation you have from your employment - performance reviews, emails, work schedules, anything that might support your case if there's a dispute.

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I have my last performance review from 6 months ago and it was actually pretty positive. Should I mention that in my application?

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Definitely keep that handy in case you need it, but don't overwhelm your initial application with too much detail. Save the supporting docs for if there's an investigation.

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The whole system is designed to help workers who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. Performance issues usually fall into that category unless you were deliberately sabotaging your work or something extreme like that.

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That makes sense. I was definitely trying my best, just couldn't keep up with their unrealistic productivity targets.

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Sounds like a clear case for unemployment benefits then. Just be honest in your application and you should be fine.

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has anyone dealt with washington esd taking forever to make a decision? my claim has been pending for over a month now

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That's longer than usual. You should definitely try to contact them to see what's causing the delay. Sometimes they need additional information but don't communicate that clearly.

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ive been trying to call but cant get through. might have to try that claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier

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It really does work - I was skeptical at first but it got me connected to an actual person at Washington ESD within a few minutes instead of hours of busy signals.

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One thing to keep in mind is that Washington ESD benefits are taxable income, so you might want to have them withhold taxes from your payments to avoid a big bill at tax time.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about taxes yet. Can you set up the withholding when you file the initial claim?

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Yes, there should be an option in your application or you can change it later through your online account.

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Whatever you do, don't let them intimidate you into not filing. I had a supervisor try to tell me I wouldn't qualify for unemployment after they fired me, but I filed anyway and got approved. Employers don't always know the actual rules.

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My supervisor didn't say anything about unemployment, but HR made some comment about 'termination for cause' which worried me.

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That's just corporate speak. Washington ESD makes their own determination based on the actual facts, not what your employer calls it.

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I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago. Performance termination, worried about eligibility, but I got approved without any issues. The investigation was pretty straightforward - they called my old employer and me, asked some basic questions, and made their decision within a couple weeks.

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What kind of questions did they ask you during the investigation?

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Basic stuff - why I thought I was terminated, whether I received warnings, if I understood the job expectations, things like that. Just be honest and straightforward.

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Good luck with your claim! Remember that you have rights as a worker and the unemployment system exists to help people in situations exactly like yours. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about needing these benefits - you paid into the system through your taxes.

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Thanks for the encouragement! I'm feeling much more confident about filing now after reading everyone's responses.

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That's great to hear. The process can be stressful but most people who are genuinely eligible end up getting approved. Just stay persistent and honest throughout.

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