Can I file for Washington ESD unemployment if I was fired from my job?
Got terminated from my warehouse job last Friday and wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said I was let go for "performance issues" but honestly I think it was more about them cutting costs. I've been working there for almost 2 years with no major problems until recently. Can you still get unemployment if you're fired rather than laid off? Really stressed about making rent next month.
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Caden Nguyen
Yes, you can absolutely file for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will look at whether you were terminated for "misconduct" or just performance/business reasons. Performance issues usually don't disqualify you unless it was willful misconduct. You should definitely apply right away since there's a waiting period.
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Harper Hill
•That's a relief! Should I mention the performance issues they cited or just say I was terminated?
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Caden Nguyen
•Be honest on your application. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway, so transparency is best. They'll make the final determination.
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Avery Flores
I got fired from my retail job last year for being late too many times and still got approved for UI benefits. The key is whether it was intentional misconduct or not. Sounds like your situation might qualify since it was performance-related, not something like theft or fighting.
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Harper Hill
•How long did it take for them to decide on your claim? I'm worried about the wait time.
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Avery Flores
•Took about 3 weeks for mine to get approved. They had to do some kind of investigation with my former employer first.
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Zoe Gonzalez
Just went through this exact situation myself. Filed online at esd.wa.gov and it was pretty straightforward. The tricky part was getting through to Washington ESD when I had questions about my claim status. I ended up using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to help me get connected to an actual agent when I couldn't get through on my own. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Harper Hill
•Never heard of Claimyr before, is it legit? I hate trying to call government offices.
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Zoe Gonzalez
•Yeah it's real, basically helps you get through the busy phone lines to talk to Washington ESD staff. Way better than hitting redial for hours.
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Ashley Adams
•How much does something like that cost though? Money's already tight if you're filing for unemployment.
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Alexis Robinson
The Washington ESD will investigate any termination to determine if it was for misconduct. Poor performance, lack of skills, or economic reasons typically don't disqualify you. However, if they find evidence of willful misconduct (like violations of company policy, insubordination, or criminal acts), you could be denied benefits.
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Harper Hill
•What if my employer tries to claim it was misconduct even though it wasn't?
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Alexis Robinson
•You'll have the opportunity to provide your side of the story. Washington ESD considers evidence from both parties before making a decision. Keep any documentation you have.
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Edwards Hugo
Yes, you can definitely file even if you were fired. Washington ESD will look at the specific reason for termination. If it was for performance issues rather than misconduct, you might still qualify. The key is whether it was 'misconduct' or just not being able to do the job well enough.
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Dylan Fisher
•That makes me feel a bit better. They never said it was misconduct, just that I wasn't fast enough at picking orders. How do I explain this when filing?
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Edwards Hugo
•Be honest about what happened when you file your claim. Explain that it was performance-related, not misconduct. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side too.
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Gianna Scott
I was in a similar situation last year - got fired for 'not being a good fit' which was basically performance. Filed anyway and got approved after about 3 weeks of adjudication. The worst they can do is say no, but you should definitely try.
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Dylan Fisher
•Did your employer fight it at all? I'm worried mine will try to make it sound worse than it was.
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Gianna Scott
•They provided their statement but didn't contest it beyond that. Washington ESD makes the final decision based on all the info.
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Aaron Lee
ugh the whole system is such a nightmare. I got fired from my last job for "attitude problems" which was basically just me standing up for myself when management was being unreasonable. Still got my unemployment though after they did their investigation. Don't let them intimidate you into not filing.
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Harper Hill
•Did you have to do anything special during the investigation process?
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Aaron Lee
•Just answered their questions honestly and provided my version of events. They called my old boss too but I guess my story checked out.
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Chloe Mitchell
File ASAP! There's a one-week waiting period anyway and the sooner you get in the system, the sooner you might start getting benefits. Even if there's an issue with your termination, it's better to have the claim started.
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Harper Hill
•Good point, I'll do it tonight. Thanks everyone for the advice!
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Alfredo Lugo
The distinction Washington ESD makes is between misconduct (which disqualifies you) and inability to perform the job (which usually doesn't). No formal warnings actually works in your favor - shows they didn't follow progressive discipline for misconduct.
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Sydney Torres
•This is really helpful info. I had no idea there was a difference between those two things.
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Alfredo Lugo
•Exactly. Misconduct would be things like stealing, fighting, not showing up, violating safety rules. Poor performance is different - that's usually not disqualifying.
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Michael Adams
Same thing happened to my brother-in-law. He was "let go" for performance but really they were just downsizing. Got his unemployment with no problems. The Washington ESD people are pretty fair about these things from what I've seen.
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Harper Hill
•That's encouraging to hear. How long did he stay on unemployment before finding something else?
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Michael Adams
•About 4 months I think? He had to do the job search requirements and all that but it worked out fine.
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Natalie Wang
One thing to keep in mind - even if you qualify for unemployment, you'll need to actively search for work and report your job search activities each week. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week typically. Don't forget about that requirement!
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Harper Hill
•What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?
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Natalie Wang
•Applications, networking events, career fairs, informational interviews, updating your resume with WorkSource - lots of things count. They give you a list when you file.
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Noah Torres
been there done that. got canned from my construction job for "safety violations" that were really just me questioning some sketchy practices. fought it and won my UI benefits. dont let them bully you out of what you earned.
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Harper Hill
•How did you fight it? Did you need a lawyer or anything?
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Noah Torres
•nah just told my side to the unemployment people when they called. had some coworkers back me up too. truth came out eventually.
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Caden Nguyen
Quick update on the Claimyr thing mentioned earlier - I actually tried it last month when I was having issues with my weekly claim certification. Worked pretty well for getting through to someone at Washington ESD without the usual phone tag. Might be worth looking into if you run into problems with your claim.
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Samantha Hall
•Did they charge you for that service?
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Caden Nguyen
•There was a fee but honestly it was worth it to actually talk to someone instead of getting hung up on constantly. Saved me hours of frustration.
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
Just went through this whole process myself and had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check my claim status. If you run into the same issue, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to an agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of trying to call.
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Dylan Fisher
•Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I can't get through. Did Washington ESD approve your claim after being fired?
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
•Yeah, took about 4 weeks but got approved. The agent I talked to through Claimyr helped explain what was happening with my claim.
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Caleb Bell
•Never heard of that service but might be worth it if the phone lines are as bad as everyone says.
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Danielle Campbell
DEFINITELY file!! I was fired for attendance issues (overslept a few times) and still got benefits. Washington ESD looks at each case individually. Don't let them scare you into not applying.
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Dylan Fisher
•Did you have to go through an appeal or anything?
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Danielle Campbell
•Nope, got approved on first try. Your situation sounds way less serious than mine was.
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Rhett Bowman
File your claim ASAP because there's a waiting period anyway. Even if there are issues to resolve, you want to get the process started. You can always appeal if they deny you initially.
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Dylan Fisher
•Good point, I'll file tomorrow morning. How long does the whole process usually take?
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Rhett Bowman
•If there are no issues, about 2 weeks. If it goes to adjudication like yours probably will, could be 4-6 weeks unfortunately.
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Ryan Young
Pro tip: when you file online, make sure you have all your employment information ready - dates, wages, reason for separation, etc. The Washington ESD application is pretty detailed and you don't want to have to go back and correct stuff later.
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Harper Hill
•Should I gather my pay stubs before filing?
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Ryan Young
•Yes definitely! Having your last few pay stubs and any termination paperwork will make the process much smoother.
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Sophia Clark
Just want to echo what others have said - being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment. I know someone who got fired for "not being a good fit" and still got benefits. The key is that it wasn't misconduct.
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Harper Hill
•That's exactly what I needed to hear. I was worried I wouldn't qualify at all.
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Sydney Torres
Washington ESD will ask both you and your employer for details about what happened. Be completely honest - lying or leaving out important details will hurt you more than the original firing reason.
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Dylan Fisher
•Should I mention that other people had similar productivity issues but didn't get fired?
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Sydney Torres
•If it's true, yes. That could show inconsistent enforcement of their standards.
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Edwards Hugo
•But stick to facts you can prove. Don't make assumptions about why others weren't fired.
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Abigail Patel
The system is so broken. I know people who got fired for legitimate reasons and still got benefits while others who did nothing wrong get denied. It's all about how you explain it and sometimes just luck.
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Daniel White
•That's not really helpful to someone trying to figure out if they should file...
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Abigail Patel
•My point is they should definitely file because the system is unpredictable anyway.
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Katherine Harris
Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off when you file. Washington ESD treats them differently but both can potentially qualify for benefits depending on the circumstances. Don't assume you're disqualified just because you were terminated.
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Harper Hill
•What's the main difference in how they treat them?
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Katherine Harris
•Layoffs are usually automatic approval since it's not your fault. Terminations require more investigation to determine if misconduct was involved.
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Madison Allen
i was fired from target for being 15 minutes late once too many times and still got my unemployment. as long as you weren't stealing or doing drugs or something really bad you should be fine
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Harper Hill
•Good to know! I definitely wasn't doing anything that bad, just struggling with productivity targets.
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Nolan Carter
I got fired from a retail job for 'not meeting sales goals' and Washington ESD approved my claim. Performance issues are usually not considered misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job.
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Dylan Fisher
•That sounds really similar to my situation. Did your employer contest the claim?
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Nolan Carter
•They submitted their response but didn't fight it hard. I think they knew it wasn't really misconduct.
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Joshua Wood
Don't forget that if Washington ESD denies your claim initially, you can appeal their decision. Sometimes they're overly cautious on the first review but a successful appeal can overturn that. You have 30 days to file an appeal if needed.
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Harper Hill
•Is the appeal process complicated?
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Joshua Wood
•Not too bad, you just need to explain your side clearly and provide any supporting documentation. Many appeals succeed when the initial denial was questionable.
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Natalia Stone
Make sure when you file that you select the right reason for separation. There should be an option for 'discharged/fired' and then you'll get to explain the circumstances in more detail.
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Dylan Fisher
•Is there a difference between putting 'fired' vs 'laid off' vs other options?
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Natalia Stone
•Yes, be accurate. 'Fired' means terminated for cause, 'laid off' means no fault of your own. Being truthful is important.
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Tasia Synder
Whatever you do, don't delay filing. I waited two weeks after getting fired thinking I wouldn't qualify and those were two weeks of benefits I could have gotten if I'd been approved.
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Dylan Fisher
•Oh no, so you lose those weeks permanently?
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Tasia Synder
•Yeah, benefits only start from when you file, not when you were terminated. Don't make my mistake.
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Selena Bautista
I'm dealing with Washington ESD right now for a similar issue and using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Actually got through to an agent yesterday who explained exactly what documentation they needed for my case. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Dylan Fisher
•Did it cost a lot to use that service?
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Selena Bautista
•Honestly didn't even think about the cost after spending weeks trying to get through on my own. Time is money too.
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Mohamed Anderson
Performance issues vs misconduct is huge in Washington state. I work in HR and see this all the time. If someone can't do the job despite trying, that's usually not disqualifying. If they won't do the job or violate rules, that's misconduct.
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Dylan Fisher
•That makes a lot of sense. I was definitely trying, just couldn't keep up with their speed requirements.
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Mohamed Anderson
•That sounds like inability to perform rather than misconduct. Should be in your favor.
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Ellie Perry
•This is really good info. Wish I'd known this distinction when I got fired last year.
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Landon Morgan
File the claim online at esd.wa.gov and be prepared for it to go to adjudication since there was a termination involved. That just means they need to investigate before making a decision.
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Dylan Fisher
•How long does adjudication usually take?
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Landon Morgan
•Anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on how busy they are and how complicated your case is.
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Teresa Boyd
Document everything you can remember about the firing - dates, what was said, any emails or paperwork. If Washington ESD has questions later, you'll want those details.
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Dylan Fisher
•Good idea. I should probably write down everything while it's still fresh in my memory.
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Teresa Boyd
•Exactly. And keep any final paystubs or separation paperwork they gave you.
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Lourdes Fox
Don't let anyone tell you not to file just because you were fired. Washington ESD exists to help people who lose jobs through no real fault of their own, and poor performance often falls into that category.
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Dylan Fisher
•Thank you, that's really encouraging. I was starting to think I shouldn't even bother trying.
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Lourdes Fox
•Always worth trying. The worst case is they say no and you're in the same position you're in now.
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Bruno Simmons
Started my claim process two months ago after being terminated and finally got my first payment last week. The key is being patient but persistent, especially if you need to contact them about your claim status.
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Dylan Fisher
•Two months seems like forever when you need to pay bills. Glad it worked out for you though.
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Bruno Simmons
•Yeah it was stressful but worth sticking with it. That Claimyr thing actually helped me get updates when I couldn't reach anyone by phone.
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Aileen Rodriguez
Remember you'll also need to do job search activities once your claim is active. Washington ESD requires 3 job search contacts per week, so start keeping track of your applications.
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Dylan Fisher
•Oh right, I forgot about that requirement. Do I need to start doing that right away?
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Once you start filing weekly claims, yes. They'll explain all the requirements when your claim gets processed.
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Zane Gray
Just an update in case anyone else is in this situation - filed my claim after being fired for attendance and got approved yesterday. Don't give up before you even try!
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Dylan Fisher
•That's awesome! Gives me hope that my performance issue situation might work out too.
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Zane Gray
•Definitely file ASAP. Even if it takes a while, at least the process will be started.
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Maggie Martinez
One thing to keep in mind - if Washington ESD approves your claim and your employer appeals their decision, you might have to go through a hearing process. But don't let that scare you from filing.
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Dylan Fisher
•A hearing sounds intimidating. What's that like if it happens?
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Maggie Martinez
•It's usually done by phone and you just explain your side of what happened. Most employers don't even bother appealing unless it was clear misconduct.
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Justin Evans
One more thing - if you do qualify for benefits, your weekly benefit amount will be based on your wages from the past year, not just this job. So even if this job didn't pay great, your benefits might be higher if you had better-paying work earlier in your base period.
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Harper Hill
•That's interesting, I did have a better paying job earlier last year before this warehouse gig.
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Justin Evans
•Then you might be pleasantly surprised by your benefit amount! Washington ESD looks at your highest-earning quarter to calculate your weekly benefit.
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Emily Parker
Been following this thread and wanted to add - if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about your claim status, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier actually does work. Used it myself when I couldn't get through their phone system. Worth checking out the demo video they linked if you're frustrated with busy signals.
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Harper Hill
•I'll definitely keep that in mind if I run into phone issues. Thanks for the confirmation!
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Ezra Collins
Bottom line - file your claim regardless of being fired. Let Washington ESD make the determination rather than assuming you don't qualify. Worst case scenario is they say no, but many people who were terminated still qualify for benefits. You've got nothing to lose by filing.
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Harper Hill
•You're absolutely right. I'm going to file tonight and see what happens. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice!
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Victoria Scott
•Good luck! Hope it works out for you.
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