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Can you collect unemployment when you are fired - Washington ESD eligibility questions

I got terminated from my warehouse job last Tuesday and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was for 'performance issues' but honestly I think they just wanted to get rid of me because I complained about safety violations. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve benefits when you get fired? I'm really stressed about paying rent next month and need to know if it's worth applying or if I'll just get denied automatically.

Yes, you can absolutely collect unemployment in Washington when you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD looks at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or intentional. You should definitely apply - the worst they can say is no, and if you get denied you can always appeal.

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Thanks! Do you know how long the application process takes? I'm worried about the gap in income.

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Usually takes about 2-3 weeks to get your first payment if everything goes smoothly. Make sure you file your weekly claims even while it's processing.

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I was fired from my retail job 6 months ago and Washington ESD approved my claim. The key is being honest about what happened when you apply. They'll contact your employer to get their side of the story too. If it really was just performance issues and not something like theft or insubordination, you should be fine.

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Did they make you wait longer because you were fired vs if you had quit?

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No, the timeline was the same. Being fired doesn't automatically delay anything - it's just about whether Washington ESD determines it was misconduct or not.

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You mentioned safety violations - that could actually work in your favor. Washington has strong whistleblower protections and if you can show you were fired for reporting safety issues, that would definitely not be considered misconduct. Keep any documentation you have about those complaints.

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I do have emails where I reported the safety issues to my supervisor and HR. Should I include those when I apply?

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Definitely save them for the appeal process if needed, but the initial application is pretty basic. You can mention the safety reporting in the reason for separation section though.

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about misconduct vs non-misconduct terminations. Basically, if you weren't fired for something intentionally wrong or against company policy, you should qualify. Performance issues, attendance problems, or even conflicts with coworkers usually don't disqualify you.

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This is so helpful. I thought any kind of firing meant you couldn't get unemployment.

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That's a really common misconception! Washington state is pretty worker-friendly when it comes to unemployment eligibility.

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been fired twice and got unemployment both times lol. as long as you werent stealing or doing drugs or something obvious like that youre probably fine. washington esd is pretty reasonable about these things

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That's reassuring! Did you have to do anything special during the application process?

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nah just answered the questions honestly. they called my old boss but still approved it

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One thing to keep in mind - when you apply, Washington ESD will ask for specific details about why you were terminated. Be as detailed as possible about the performance issues they cited and definitely mention the safety reporting. The more context you provide, the better they can evaluate whether it was misconduct.

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Should I mention that I never got any formal warnings? It seems relevant.

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Absolutely! That shows there wasn't a pattern of misconduct or willful performance issues.

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I hate how stressful this whole process is when you're already dealing with losing your job. The system should be clearer about what qualifies and what doesn't instead of making people guess.

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Totally agree. The uncertainty is almost worse than the actual job loss sometimes.

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Yeah, I'm already anxious enough without having to worry about whether I'll qualify for benefits.

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Pro tip: when you file your initial claim, you'll get a determination letter from Washington ESD within a couple weeks. If they deny your claim, you have 30 days to appeal. Don't panic if you get denied initially - appeals are pretty common and often successful, especially in cases like yours where the termination reason is questionable.

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Good to know there's an appeal process. How does that work exactly?

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You can request an appeal online or by phone, then you'll get a hearing scheduled with an administrative law judge. You can present your evidence and testimony.

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Same thing happened to my brother last year - got fired for 'performance' but it was really retaliation for union organizing. Washington ESD approved his claim no problem. The key is that performance issues aren't misconduct unless the employer can prove you were deliberately underperforming.

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That's exactly what I think happened to me - retaliation for the safety complaints.

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If you can document that timeline, you'll be in great shape for your claim.

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Just apply as soon as possible! You can't collect benefits for weeks before you apply, so every day you wait is money you're losing. Even if Washington ESD needs to investigate your termination, you should still file your weekly claims while they review everything.

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I didn't know about the timing thing. I'll apply today for sure.

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Yes, definitely don't wait. The sooner you apply, the sooner you can start getting benefits if approved.

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For what it's worth, I work in HR and we rarely contest unemployment claims unless there was actual misconduct like theft or violence. Most companies don't want to deal with the hassle of proving misconduct for performance issues.

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That's interesting insight. So employers don't automatically fight every claim?

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Not at all. Fighting a claim costs time and money, and if they can't prove misconduct, they'll lose anyway.

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UPDATE: I ended up using that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier when I had questions about my adjudication process. Super helpful to actually talk to a Washington ESD representative instead of just wondering what was happening. Would definitely recommend if you run into issues getting through on the phone.

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How quickly were you able to get connected?

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They called me back within a few hours and had me connected to Washington ESD pretty quickly. Way better than sitting on hold forever.

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this whole thread is making me feel better about my situation. got fired last week for 'attitude problems' which is BS but sounds like washington esd doesnt automatically deny these claims. gonna apply tomorrow

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Good luck! Sounds like we're in similar situations.

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Attitude problems definitely aren't misconduct unless you were threatening people or something extreme like that.

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Quick question - do you have to do job searches right away when you apply or can you wait until your claim is approved? I want to make sure I understand all the requirements.

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You need to start job searching as soon as you file your claim. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and you have to log them in WorkSourceWA.

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Thanks! I'll make sure to start tracking my applications right away.

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The whole misconduct definition in Washington is pretty narrow. They look for things like willful violation of company rules, insubordination, illegal activities, etc. Regular performance issues or conflicts with management usually don't qualify as misconduct.

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This is really helpful. I feel much more confident about applying now.

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One more thing - make sure you're completely honest in your application. Washington ESD will verify everything with your employer anyway, so any inconsistencies will just hurt your case. Sounds like you have a solid situation though.

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Definitely planning to be completely truthful. I have nothing to hide since I know I didn't do anything wrong.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I'm going to apply today and make sure I mention the safety reporting situation. Feel much more confident about this now.

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Good luck! Come back and let us know how it goes.

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Hope everything works out for you! Remember that Claimyr option if you need to reach Washington ESD directly for any reason.

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This thread should be pinned - so much good information about unemployment eligibility after being fired. Wish I had found this when I was going through my situation last year!

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Agreed! Really helpful to see everyone's experiences and advice in one place.

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