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Natasha Petrov

Can I qualify for Washington ESD unemployment if I was fired from my job?

Got terminated from my warehouse job last Friday and I'm wondering if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think they just wanted to get rid of me because I complained about unsafe working conditions. I've been working there for 8 months and this is my first time dealing with unemployment. Do I have any chance of getting approved or should I not even bother applying? Really stressed about paying rent next month.

You can definitely apply! Washington ESD doesn't automatically disqualify people who were fired. The key question is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately doing something wrong. If you were fired for legitimate safety concerns or just not meeting expectations, you'll likely qualify.

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That's a relief to hear. The safety issues were real - broken equipment they wouldn't fix and no proper protective gear. Should I mention that in my application?

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Absolutely mention the safety concerns. Washington ESD looks favorably on situations where employees were trying to follow proper safety protocols. Document everything you can remember about the unsafe conditions.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. The worst they can do is deny you, but if you wait too long you'll lose out on potential benefits. You can always appeal if they initially deny your claim.

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How long do I have to file? I was fired on Friday and it's now Tuesday.

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You're still well within the timeframe. You generally want to file within the first week or two after job loss. Go to the Washington ESD website and start your application today.

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I had a similar situation where I got fired and was worried about applying. Turned out my employer didn't even contest my claim. A lot of companies don't bother fighting unemployment claims unless it was really serious misconduct. Performance issues rarely qualify as misconduct in Washington state.

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Did Washington ESD contact your employer automatically or did you have to do something?

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Washington ESD contacts the employer automatically as part of their standard process. The employer has a chance to respond and provide their side of the story, but many don't even bother responding.

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This is encouraging. I've been avoiding applying because I thought being fired meant automatic disqualification.

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Never heard of that service. Is it legit or some kind of scam?

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It's totally legit. They just help you get through to Washington ESD's phone system when it's overwhelmed. Way better than spending hours trying to call yourself.

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I used Claimyr too when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Saved me probably 10+ hours of trying to call Washington ESD myself.

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The misconduct standard in Washington is pretty high. You basically have to have done something intentionally wrong or violated clear company policies after being warned. Just not being good enough at your job doesn't count as misconduct.

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What if they said I was 'insubordinate' for complaining about the safety issues?

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Complaining about legitimate safety issues is actually protected activity. If they fired you for that, it could even be wrongful termination, not just a valid unemployment claim.

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This! You might want to contact OSHA about the safety violations too, not just file for unemployment.

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whatever you do dont lie on the application about being fired!!! Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer and then you'll be in real trouble for fraud. Just be honest about what happened.

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Yeah I definitely wasn't planning to lie. Just wasn't sure if being fired was an automatic disqualifier.

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nope not automatic at all. lots of people who get fired still qualify for unemployment. just depends on the circumstances

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims regularly. Most performance-related terminations don't rise to the level of misconduct. Washington ESD looks for things like theft, violence, excessive absenteeism after warnings, or willful violations of company policy. Poor performance alone usually isn't enough to disqualify someone.

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This is really helpful coming from someone who deals with this professionally. Should I get any documentation together before I apply?

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Gather any emails or documentation about the safety issues you raised, your performance reviews if you have them, and write down the timeline of events while it's fresh in your memory. This will help if Washington ESD needs more information.

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As someone who got fired and successfully got unemployment, I second this advice. Documentation helps a lot if your claim gets contested.

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The unemployment system is so broken. They make it seem like if you get fired you can't get benefits but that's not true at all. Companies use this to intimidate workers into not even trying to file claims.

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Exactly! I bet tons of people who would qualify never even apply because they think being fired disqualifies them automatically.

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That was definitely my assumption until I started reading about it online.

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File your claim online at the Washington ESD website. The process is pretty straightforward. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and information about your last employer. Don't overthink it - just answer the questions honestly.

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Do I need to wait for any paperwork from my employer or can I file right away?

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File right away. You don't need to wait for anything from your employer. Washington ESD will contact them directly as part of their process.

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When my claim went to adjudication after I was fired, it took forever to get a decision. I couldn't get through to Washington ESD on the phone for weeks. Finally tried Claimyr and got connected to someone who could actually look at my case and explain what was happening.

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How long did your adjudication take?

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About 6 weeks total, but once I got through to someone at Washington ESD they were able to speed things up. Turned out they just needed some additional information from me that I could have provided weeks earlier.

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honestly the whole system is designed to discourage people from applying. file your claim and don't let them bully you out of benefits you've earned through paying into the system.

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This! You paid into unemployment insurance through your paychecks. You've earned the right to apply for benefits when you lose your job.

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Good point about paying into it. I never thought about unemployment that way before.

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Make sure you understand the difference between being fired 'for cause' vs just being fired. Washington ESD cares about the reason, not just the fact that you were terminated. Performance issues typically aren't considered 'for cause' in the misconduct sense.

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My termination letter just says 'performance issues' - nothing about misconduct or violations.

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That's actually good for your case. If they're not alleging specific misconduct, it sounds like a standard performance termination which usually qualifies for unemployment.

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Don't let this stress you out too much. File your claim, be honest about what happened, and let Washington ESD make the determination. Even if they initially deny you, you can appeal the decision. The process exists to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file my claim today. Feeling much more confident about it now.

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Good luck! Remember that even if your employer contests it, that doesn't mean you won't get approved. Washington ESD makes their own independent determination.

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Keep us updated on how it goes! Always helpful to hear about other people's experiences with the process.

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