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Sofia Torres

Can I receive Washington ESD unemployment if fired from my job?

I got terminated from my warehouse job last Friday and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My supervisor said I was let go for performance issues but I think it was really because I reported safety violations to OSHA. I've been working there for 2 years with no prior write-ups. Does Washington ESD approve claims when you're fired or do they automatically deny them? I'm really stressed about paying rent next month.

You can absolutely apply for unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD looks at the reason for termination. If it wasn't for 'misconduct' you should be eligible. Performance issues alone usually don't disqualify you unless it was willful misconduct.

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That's a relief to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct? I was never written up or given any formal warnings.

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Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate violation of company rules. Poor performance or inability to do the job usually doesn't qualify as misconduct under Washington law.

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I was fired last year for attendance issues and still got approved. Washington ESD will investigate and contact your employer. If they can't prove misconduct, you'll get benefits. The key is being honest on your application.

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How long did the investigation take? I need to know if I should look for temporary work while waiting.

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Mine took about 3 weeks. They call it adjudication and they'll contact both you and your employer to get the facts.

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Since you mentioned reporting safety violations, that could actually help your case. Washington has protections for whistleblowers. If you can show you were fired in retaliation for reporting safety issues, that would definitely not be misconduct.

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I do have emails showing I reported the safety issues a week before I was fired. Should I mention this when I apply?

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Absolutely mention it. Keep those emails as evidence. You might also want to contact L&I about the retaliation aspect separately.

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This is solid advice. Retaliation for safety reporting is illegal and definitely not misconduct for UI purposes.

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I'm going through something similar right now - got fired three weeks ago and my claim is still in adjudication. The waiting is killing me. I've been trying to call Washington ESD but can't get through to anyone to check on my claim status.

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How many times have you tried calling? I'm dreading having to deal with their phone system.

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Probably 50+ times over the past two weeks. I either get busy signals or get disconnected after waiting on hold for an hour.

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whatever you do dont lie on the application!!! I know someone who got caught lying about why they were fired and they had to pay back all their benefits plus penalties

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I definitely won't lie. I plan to be completely honest about the circumstances.

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This is crucial advice. Always be truthful. Washington ESD will find out the real reason eventually.

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The whole system is ridiculous. I was fired for being 5 minutes late THREE TIMES and they denied my claim. Meanwhile my coworker who got fired for sleeping on the job got approved. Makes no sense.

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Did you appeal the decision? Sometimes the initial determination is wrong and you can win on appeal.

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No I didn't know I could appeal. This was like 6 months ago though so probably too late now.

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Yeah, you only have 30 days to appeal from the date of the determination. But good to know for anyone else reading this.

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I'm a former Washington ESD worker and I can tell you that most terminations don't rise to the level of misconduct. The bar is pretty high - has to be intentional violation of known rules or gross negligence. Poor performance alone usually doesn't cut it.

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That's really helpful to know from someone who worked there. Do you think my situation sounds like it would qualify?

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Based on what you've described, especially with no prior write-ups and the timing after your safety report, I'd say you have a good chance. Just be thorough in explaining the circumstances.

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File your claim ASAP! You can apply online at Washington ESD's website. Even if there's going to be an investigation, you want to get your claim date established as early as possible.

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I was planning to apply tomorrow. Do I need any specific documents or information?

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You'll need your Social Security number, employment history for the past 18 months, and details about your termination. Have your employer's info ready too.

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Also make sure you have your bank info for direct deposit setup. Saves time later.

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My brother was fired for allegedly stealing but it turned out to be a mistake. He got his benefits approved after adjudication. Even when fired, if the employer can't prove misconduct, you win.

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How did he prove it was a mistake? Did he need a lawyer?

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No lawyer needed. He just provided his side of the story to Washington ESD and they investigated. The employer couldn't provide enough evidence of actual theft.

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Update on my situation - I finally got through to Washington ESD using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Turns out my claim was approved but there was a system glitch showing it as still pending. Super frustrating but at least it's resolved now.

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That's great news! How much did the Claimyr service cost to use?

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It was worth it just to get answers instead of calling 50 times a day. Way less stressful than trying to get through on my own.

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Glad it worked out! I've recommended Claimyr to several people now and everyone's had good experiences reaching Washington ESD agents.

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Question about job search requirements - if I'm fired and apply for unemployment, do I have to start looking for work immediately or can I wait until my claim is approved?

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You need to start your job search activities right away, even during adjudication. Washington ESD requires you to be actively seeking work to remain eligible.

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Okay thanks. I wasn't sure if that applied during the investigation period too.

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I was fired from my retail job for 'attitude problems' which was BS. Got approved for benefits after they couldn't prove I violated any specific policies. The key is documenting everything and being prepared to tell your side.

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Did you have to provide any documentation during the adjudication process?

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I provided my employee handbook showing what constituted violations and my performance reviews showing no issues. Helped my case a lot.

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The bottom line is Washington ESD errs on the side of the worker in most cases. Unless your employer can prove willful misconduct with solid evidence, you'll probably get approved. Don't let them intimidate you into not filing.

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That's encouraging. My employer seemed pretty confident I wouldn't get benefits but maybe they're just trying to discourage me from applying.

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Exactly. Employers often try to discourage people from filing even when they have valid claims. Always file and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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Make sure you keep records of everything - emails, text messages, witness statements if you have them. If it goes to a hearing, you'll want all the documentation you can get.

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Good point. I should probably start organizing all my documentation now just in case.

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Yes, and take screenshots of any digital communications before they might get deleted. Better to have too much evidence than not enough.

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add that if you do get denied initially, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and lots of people win on appeal even after being denied initially.

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How long does the appeal process typically take?

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Usually a few months depending on the backlog. But if you win, you get back pay from when you first filed.

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And during appeal, you can still file weekly claims even if you're not getting paid. Important to keep your claim active.

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Just want to echo what others have said - file immediately and be completely honest. Your situation with the safety violations sounds like it could actually work in your favor. Good luck!

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Thank you! I'm feeling much more confident about applying now after reading everyone's advice.

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You're welcome. This forum has been a lifesaver for me too when I was dealing with Washington ESD issues.

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One last thing - if you do get benefits approved, make sure you understand the weekly claim process. You have to file every week even if you don't get paid that week due to working part-time or whatever.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for all the helpful information everyone!

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No problem. Hope everything works out for you. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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For anyone else reading this thread, I had success using Claimyr when I needed to speak with Washington ESD about my fired-for-cause claim. Sometimes you really need to talk to a human to explain your situation properly, and their phone system is impossible otherwise.

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How quickly were you able to get connected through them?

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Same day I submitted my request. Way better than spending days trying to call on my own and never getting through.

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This has been really helpful to read. I'm in a similar situation where I was fired but I think wrongfully. Going to file my claim tomorrow and see what happens. Wish me luck!

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Good luck! Sounds like we're both in similar boats. Hope it works out for both of us.

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Thanks! I'll try to remember to update this thread once I know how my claim goes.

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