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Ethan Davis

Washington ESD seasonal unemployment - carpenter filing every winter need advice

I'm a framing carpenter and this is my third year dealing with the same pattern - work completely dries up from December through March due to weather and construction slowdowns. I know this is seasonal unemployment but I'm confused about how Washington ESD handles these claims. Do I need to keep doing job searches when I know my employer will call me back in spring? Last year my weekly claims got flagged for some reason and I had to do a phone interview. Anyone else deal with seasonal layoffs regularly?

Seasonal unemployment is pretty common in construction trades. You still need to file weekly claims and do job searches unless you have a specific return-to-work date from your employer. Washington ESD requires you to be actively seeking work even if it's seasonal.

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So I can't just wait for my boss to call me back? That seems like a waste of time when everyone knows construction picks up in spring.

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Unfortunately no, you have to show you're available and actively seeking work. The job search requirement is 3 work search activities per week.

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I've been doing seasonal claims for 8 years as a landscaper. The key is documenting everything properly and being consistent with your weekly claims. Make sure you report any odd jobs or cash work too.

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What kind of documentation do you keep? I usually just keep track of the jobs I apply for.

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Keep records of every application, phone call, and networking contact. Washington ESD can audit your job search activities at any time.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually work to get through to someone?

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I was skeptical too but tried it when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Got through the same day and cleared up the issue.

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The seasonal unemployment rules can be tricky. If your employer gives you a definite recall date within 8 weeks, you might qualify for standby status which has different requirements than regular UI claims.

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What's standby status? My boss usually just says 'we'll call when weather improves' but no specific date.

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Standby requires a written notice from your employer with a specific return date. Without that, you're on regular unemployment with full job search requirements.

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this happens to me every year too, construction always slows down in winter. i just keep filing my weekly claims and apply to random jobs even though i know nobody's hiring carpenters in january

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That's exactly my situation. Feels pointless but I guess we have to follow the rules.

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You could look into temporary work or different trades during the off season. Some carpenters do remodeling or indoor work during winter.

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Make sure you're reporting your layoff correctly on your initial claim. Seasonal layoffs are different from being fired or quitting. The reason for separation affects your eligibility.

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I always put 'lack of work' as the reason. Is that correct for seasonal?

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Yes, 'lack of work' or 'temporary layoff' are both appropriate for seasonal construction layoffs. Never put 'quit' even if you knew the layoff was coming.

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Been there! The worst part is when they question whether you're really looking for work. I had to do a phone interview last year because they thought I wasn't serious about finding a job.

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That's what I'm worried about. How did the phone interview go?

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It was fine once I explained the seasonal nature of construction work. Just be honest about your job search efforts and why the work is seasonal.

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Pro tip: apply to some year-round construction companies even if you plan to go back to your original employer. Shows Washington ESD you're genuinely looking for work.

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Good idea. I never thought about applying to places I don't really want to work at.

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yeah but what if they actually want to hire you? then you're stuck having to turn down a job offer

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You're allowed to turn down jobs that pay significantly less than your previous work or aren't suitable. Just document the reasons.

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UPDATE: Called Washington ESD this morning using that Claimyr service someone mentioned. Actually got through to a human after about 30 minutes instead of the usual busy signal marathon. The agent confirmed I need to keep doing job searches even though it's seasonal work. At least now I know for sure.

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Glad it worked for you too! Way better than spending hours trying to get through on your own.

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Good that you got clarification directly from Washington ESD. That's the most reliable source for your specific situation.

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Same boat here as a roofer. Winter is brutal for our trade. I usually pick up some snow removal work or help friends with indoor projects to stay busy and make a few bucks.

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Do you report that side work on your weekly claims?

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Absolutely. You have to report any income even if it's just a day here and there. Washington ESD will reduce your benefits accordingly but you won't get in trouble for working.

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The system is so frustrating for seasonal workers. We're not lazy, the work just isn't there! But we still have to jump through all the same hoops as someone who got permanently laid off.

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Exactly! It feels like they don't understand how construction work actually operates.

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The rules are designed to be uniform across all industries. While it can be frustrating, the job search requirement ensures people are genuinely available for work.

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I work for a union and we have a system where they notify us about available jobs during slow periods. Might be worth looking into if there's a carpenters union in your area.

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I've thought about joining the union but wasn't sure if it's worth it for seasonal workers.

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Union membership can provide more steady work opportunities and better communication about upcoming projects. Plus the job referral system helps with your Washington ESD job search requirements.

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Another option is to look into training programs during your off season. Washington ESD sometimes approves training that can enhance your skills without affecting your benefits.

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What kind of training programs? I've been thinking about learning some electrical or plumbing basics.

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Check with WorkSource Washington for approved training programs. They have partnerships with community colleges for trades training.

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been doing this dance for 15 years. the key is staying organized with your job search log and not getting frustrated with the process. it's just part of seasonal work life

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Any specific tips for keeping good records? I'm terrible at paperwork.

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i use a simple spreadsheet with date, company name, position applied for, and how i applied. nothing fancy but it covers what esd wants to see

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Remember that your benefit amount is calculated based on your earnings from the previous year, so make sure Washington ESD has accurate wage information from all your employers.

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Good point. I worked for three different contractors last year so I need to make sure they all reported my wages correctly.

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Word of advice - don't wait until you're completely out of work to file. You can file as soon as you know you're being laid off, even if it's a few days before your last day.

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I didn't know that! I always waited until after my last paycheck.

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Yeah, there's usually a one-week waiting period anyway, so filing early helps you get benefits sooner.

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Final thought - keep your employer relationship good even during layoffs. A positive reference from your seasonal employer can help if Washington ESD has questions about your work history.

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That makes sense. My boss has always been straight with me about the seasonal nature of the work.

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Absolutely. Good employer relationships are gold in the construction industry, especially for seasonal workers.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! This thread has been super helpful. Now I feel more confident about navigating the Washington ESD system for seasonal work. Going to start my job search activities this week and keep better records this time around.

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Glad we could help! Feel free to post if you run into any issues with your claim.

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Good luck with the winter season. It'll be spring before you know it!

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