< Back to Washington Unemployment

Abby Marshall

Washington ESD employer asking if I'm liable for federal unemployment tax - confused about requirements

So I just got hired at a small business in Seattle and during orientation my employer asked me if I'm liable for federal unemployment tax. I was completely caught off guard because I thought that was something employers pay, not employees? I've worked at bigger companies before and never had anyone ask me this. Is this normal for Washington state? Should I be concerned about this employer? I don't want to mess up my taxes or my future unemployment benefits if I ever need them. Can someone explain what this means?

Your employer is confused. Federal unemployment tax (FUTA) is paid by employers, not employees. In Washington state, employers pay both FUTA to the federal government and state unemployment taxes to Washington ESD. You as an employee don't pay unemployment taxes directly.

0 coins

That's what I thought! So this is definitely weird that they asked me this?

0 coins

Yeah, it's concerning. Either they don't understand payroll taxes or they're trying to shift their tax burden to you, which would be illegal.

0 coins

Red flag honestly. I've worked payroll for 15 years and no legitimate employer should be asking employees about FUTA liability. The only thing employees pay related to unemployment is a tiny portion in some states, but Washington doesn't have employee UI contributions.

0 coins

Should I report this somewhere? I really need this job but this seems sketchy.

0 coins

You could contact Washington ESD or the Department of Labor if you suspect they're not paying proper taxes. Keep documentation of what they told you.

0 coins

Wait, I'm dealing with something similar but different. My employer is saying I need to call Washington ESD about my unemployment eligibility before they can finalize my paperwork. I've been trying to get through to them for days but their phone lines are always busy. Has anyone found a way to actually reach someone at Washington ESD?

0 coins

I had the same problem last month trying to resolve an issue with my claim. Spent hours calling and either got busy signals or got disconnected. Finally found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that actually got me through to a real person at Washington ESD. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

0 coins

That sounds too good to be true. How does it work exactly?

0 coins

It's basically a calling service that keeps trying until they get through, then they connect you. Way better than sitting on hold for hours yourself.

0 coins

your employer is either clueless or shady. employees dont pay FUTA period. thats employer tax 100%

0 coins

Yeah that's what everyone is saying. I'm definitely going to question this.

0 coins

This is definitely not normal. In Washington state, employers are required to pay unemployment taxes to both the federal government (FUTA) and to Washington ESD. The rates vary based on the employer's experience rating, but it's never the employee's responsibility. You might want to verify that this employer is properly registered with Washington ESD and paying their required taxes.

0 coins

How can I check if they're properly registered without creating problems for myself?

0 coins

Washington ESD has an employer lookup tool on their website. You can search by business name to see if they're registered. If they're not, that's a major red flag.

0 coins

Also check if they're taking out the right deductions from your paystub. If they're not withholding Social Security, Medicare, and income taxes properly, run.

0 coins

Had a similar experience at a restaurant job couple years ago. Owner kept asking weird questions about taxes and who was responsible for what. Turned out he was running a cash business and not paying any payroll taxes. I ended up having issues when I tried to file for unemployment because there was no record of my employment with Washington ESD.

0 coins

Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! How did you resolve it?

0 coins

Had to provide pay stubs and bank deposits to prove I worked there. Was a nightmare dealing with Washington ESD to get it sorted out. Take my advice and document everything.

0 coins

Just to clarify the specifics: FUTA is currently 6% on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages, but employers can get a credit that reduces it to 0.6% if they pay their state unemployment taxes on time. Washington state has its own unemployment tax rates that vary by industry and employer experience. None of this is ever paid by employees.

0 coins

So if my employer is asking me about this, they clearly don't understand basic payroll requirements?

0 coins

Exactly. It's either ignorance or they're trying to do something illegal. Either way, not a good sign.

0 coins

OMG this exact thing happened to my friend last year!! The employer kept asking employees about unemployment tax liability and it turned out they weren't paying ANY of their required taxes. Everyone who worked there had problems when they tried to claim unemployment benefits because the employer never reported their wages to Washington ESD.

0 coins

What happened to the employer? Did they get in trouble?

0 coins

Yeah they got audited and had to pay back taxes plus penalties. But all the employees had to deal with the mess of proving they worked there.

0 coins

For what it's worth, legitimate employers in Washington handle all unemployment tax obligations automatically. You shouldn't even have to think about it. The fact that they're involving you in this conversation suggests they don't have proper payroll systems in place.

0 coins

Should I ask to see their business license or tax ID number?

0 coins

You can ask, but honestly if you're already suspicious, it might be better to look for a different job. These kinds of issues usually indicate bigger problems.

0 coins

been there done that with sketchy employers. if theyre asking YOU about unemployment taxes they probably arent paying them. when you eventually need unemployment benefits youll be screwed because washington esd wont have any record of your earnings

0 coins

This is terrifying. I really need this job but I don't want to get stuck without unemployment benefits if something happens.

0 coins

If you do end up having issues with your unemployment claim because of employer problems, I'd recommend using that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. When I had complications with my claim status, it was the only way I could actually get through to speak with someone at Washington ESD to sort things out.

0 coins

I'll keep that in mind. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but good to know there's an option.

0 coins

This happened to me too! Small business owner asked if I was liable for unemployment tax and when I said no, he tried to tell me I was wrong. I ended up leaving that job after two weeks because he was also doing other sketchy things with paychecks.

0 coins

What other sketchy things? I want to know what to watch out for.

0 coins

Paying late, not providing paystubs, asking employees to work off the clock, not tracking hours properly. All red flags.

0 coins

The bottom line is that Washington state employers are required by law to register with Washington ESD and pay unemployment taxes. If they're asking you about your liability, they either don't understand their legal obligations or they're trying to avoid them. Both scenarios are problematic for you as an employee.

0 coins

I think I need to have a serious conversation with them about this. If they can't give me a satisfactory explanation, I might need to look elsewhere.

0 coins

That's probably wise. Your future unemployment benefits depend on your employer properly reporting your wages and paying their taxes.

0 coins

wait im confused about something related to this. if an employer doesnt pay their unemployment taxes to washington esd, can employees still get benefits? or are we just out of luck?

0 coins

You can still potentially get benefits, but you'll have to prove your employment and wages. Washington ESD will investigate and can go after the employer for unpaid taxes, but it makes your claim much more complicated.

0 coins

thats scary. so we could work somewhere for months and then find out we cant get unemployment because the employer was crooked?

0 coins

You'd still be eligible, but proving your wages and employment history becomes your burden instead of it being automatically in the system.

0 coins

Document everything! If you stay at this job, keep copies of all your paystubs, track your hours yourself, and make sure they're taking out the proper federal and state taxes. If they're not handling unemployment taxes properly, they're probably messing up other things too.

0 coins

Good advice. I'll definitely start keeping better records from day one if I stay.

0 coins

I work in HR and this is absolutely not normal. No legitimate employer should be asking employees about FUTA liability. It's a clear sign they don't understand payroll compliance, which could cause you problems down the road with taxes, benefits, and unemployment claims.

0 coins

Would you recommend I report this to someone even if I haven't officially started working yet?

0 coins

I'd probably give them a chance to clarify first, but if they insist that employees are responsible for unemployment taxes, then yes, you should consider reporting it.

0 coins

This is why I only work for established companies now. Had too many bad experiences with small businesses that didn't know what they were doing with taxes and payroll. Your gut instinct is right to be concerned.

0 coins

I might need to reconsider this job offer. It seemed too good to be true and maybe it is.

0 coins

Update on my situation - I used that Claimyr service and actually got through to Washington ESD today! The representative was able to clear up the confusion about my eligibility in like 10 minutes. Definitely worth it if you're having trouble reaching them through normal channels.

0 coins

That's great! I'll remember that if I run into issues with my unemployment account because of this employer situation.

0 coins

Glad it worked out for you! It's such a relief when you can actually talk to a real person who can help.

0 coins

honestly just run. any employer who doesnt know basic payroll tax rules is going to cause you headaches. not worth the stress

0 coins

I'm really starting to lean that way. Better to find a legitimate employer than deal with potential problems later.

0 coins

Final thought on this - you could also contact Washington state Department of Revenue if you suspect the employer isn't properly registered or paying required taxes. They take tax evasion seriously and it protects other potential employees too.

0 coins

That's a good point. If they're doing this to me, they're probably doing it to other people too. Thanks everyone for all the advice, this has been really helpful in understanding the situation.

0 coins

Washington Unemployment AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today