Washington ESD employer asking if I'm liable for federal unemployment tax - confused about requirements
So I just got hired at a small business in Seattle and during orientation my employer asked me if I'm liable for federal unemployment tax. I was completely caught off guard because I thought that was something employers pay, not employees? I've worked at bigger companies before and never had anyone ask me this. Is this normal for Washington state? Should I be concerned about this employer? I don't want to mess up my taxes or my future unemployment benefits if I ever need them. Can someone explain what this means?
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Sadie Benitez
Your employer is confused. Federal unemployment tax (FUTA) is paid by employers, not employees. In Washington state, employers pay both FUTA to the federal government and state unemployment taxes to Washington ESD. You as an employee don't pay unemployment taxes directly.
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Abby Marshall
•That's what I thought! So this is definitely weird that they asked me this?
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Sadie Benitez
•Yeah, it's concerning. Either they don't understand payroll taxes or they're trying to shift their tax burden to you, which would be illegal.
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Drew Hathaway
Red flag honestly. I've worked payroll for 15 years and no legitimate employer should be asking employees about FUTA liability. The only thing employees pay related to unemployment is a tiny portion in some states, but Washington doesn't have employee UI contributions.
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Abby Marshall
•Should I report this somewhere? I really need this job but this seems sketchy.
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Drew Hathaway
•You could contact Washington ESD or the Department of Labor if you suspect they're not paying proper taxes. Keep documentation of what they told you.
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Laila Prince
Wait, I'm dealing with something similar but different. My employer is saying I need to call Washington ESD about my unemployment eligibility before they can finalize my paperwork. I've been trying to get through to them for days but their phone lines are always busy. Has anyone found a way to actually reach someone at Washington ESD?
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Isabel Vega
•I had the same problem last month trying to resolve an issue with my claim. Spent hours calling and either got busy signals or got disconnected. Finally found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that actually got me through to a real person at Washington ESD. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.
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Laila Prince
•That sounds too good to be true. How does it work exactly?
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Isabel Vega
•It's basically a calling service that keeps trying until they get through, then they connect you. Way better than sitting on hold for hours yourself.
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Dominique Adams
your employer is either clueless or shady. employees dont pay FUTA period. thats employer tax 100%
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Abby Marshall
•Yeah that's what everyone is saying. I'm definitely going to question this.
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Marilyn Dixon
This is definitely not normal. In Washington state, employers are required to pay unemployment taxes to both the federal government (FUTA) and to Washington ESD. The rates vary based on the employer's experience rating, but it's never the employee's responsibility. You might want to verify that this employer is properly registered with Washington ESD and paying their required taxes.
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Abby Marshall
•How can I check if they're properly registered without creating problems for myself?
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Marilyn Dixon
•Washington ESD has an employer lookup tool on their website. You can search by business name to see if they're registered. If they're not, that's a major red flag.
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Louisa Ramirez
•Also check if they're taking out the right deductions from your paystub. If they're not withholding Social Security, Medicare, and income taxes properly, run.
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TommyKapitz
Had a similar experience at a restaurant job couple years ago. Owner kept asking weird questions about taxes and who was responsible for what. Turned out he was running a cash business and not paying any payroll taxes. I ended up having issues when I tried to file for unemployment because there was no record of my employment with Washington ESD.
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Abby Marshall
•Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! How did you resolve it?
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TommyKapitz
•Had to provide pay stubs and bank deposits to prove I worked there. Was a nightmare dealing with Washington ESD to get it sorted out. Take my advice and document everything.
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Sadie Benitez
Just to clarify the specifics: FUTA is currently 6% on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages, but employers can get a credit that reduces it to 0.6% if they pay their state unemployment taxes on time. Washington state has its own unemployment tax rates that vary by industry and employer experience. None of this is ever paid by employees.
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Abby Marshall
•So if my employer is asking me about this, they clearly don't understand basic payroll requirements?
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Sadie Benitez
•Exactly. It's either ignorance or they're trying to do something illegal. Either way, not a good sign.
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Angel Campbell
OMG this exact thing happened to my friend last year!! The employer kept asking employees about unemployment tax liability and it turned out they weren't paying ANY of their required taxes. Everyone who worked there had problems when they tried to claim unemployment benefits because the employer never reported their wages to Washington ESD.
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Abby Marshall
•What happened to the employer? Did they get in trouble?
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Angel Campbell
•Yeah they got audited and had to pay back taxes plus penalties. But all the employees had to deal with the mess of proving they worked there.
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Drew Hathaway
For what it's worth, legitimate employers in Washington handle all unemployment tax obligations automatically. You shouldn't even have to think about it. The fact that they're involving you in this conversation suggests they don't have proper payroll systems in place.
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Abby Marshall
•Should I ask to see their business license or tax ID number?
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Drew Hathaway
•You can ask, but honestly if you're already suspicious, it might be better to look for a different job. These kinds of issues usually indicate bigger problems.
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Payton Black
been there done that with sketchy employers. if theyre asking YOU about unemployment taxes they probably arent paying them. when you eventually need unemployment benefits youll be screwed because washington esd wont have any record of your earnings
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Abby Marshall
•This is terrifying. I really need this job but I don't want to get stuck without unemployment benefits if something happens.
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Isabel Vega
If you do end up having issues with your unemployment claim because of employer problems, I'd recommend using that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. When I had complications with my claim status, it was the only way I could actually get through to speak with someone at Washington ESD to sort things out.
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Abby Marshall
•I'll keep that in mind. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but good to know there's an option.
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Harold Oh
This happened to me too! Small business owner asked if I was liable for unemployment tax and when I said no, he tried to tell me I was wrong. I ended up leaving that job after two weeks because he was also doing other sketchy things with paychecks.
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Abby Marshall
•What other sketchy things? I want to know what to watch out for.
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Harold Oh
•Paying late, not providing paystubs, asking employees to work off the clock, not tracking hours properly. All red flags.
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Marilyn Dixon
The bottom line is that Washington state employers are required by law to register with Washington ESD and pay unemployment taxes. If they're asking you about your liability, they either don't understand their legal obligations or they're trying to avoid them. Both scenarios are problematic for you as an employee.
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Abby Marshall
•I think I need to have a serious conversation with them about this. If they can't give me a satisfactory explanation, I might need to look elsewhere.
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Marilyn Dixon
•That's probably wise. Your future unemployment benefits depend on your employer properly reporting your wages and paying their taxes.
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Amun-Ra Azra
wait im confused about something related to this. if an employer doesnt pay their unemployment taxes to washington esd, can employees still get benefits? or are we just out of luck?
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Sadie Benitez
•You can still potentially get benefits, but you'll have to prove your employment and wages. Washington ESD will investigate and can go after the employer for unpaid taxes, but it makes your claim much more complicated.
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Amun-Ra Azra
•thats scary. so we could work somewhere for months and then find out we cant get unemployment because the employer was crooked?
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Sadie Benitez
•You'd still be eligible, but proving your wages and employment history becomes your burden instead of it being automatically in the system.
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Summer Green
Document everything! If you stay at this job, keep copies of all your paystubs, track your hours yourself, and make sure they're taking out the proper federal and state taxes. If they're not handling unemployment taxes properly, they're probably messing up other things too.
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Abby Marshall
•Good advice. I'll definitely start keeping better records from day one if I stay.
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Gael Robinson
I work in HR and this is absolutely not normal. No legitimate employer should be asking employees about FUTA liability. It's a clear sign they don't understand payroll compliance, which could cause you problems down the road with taxes, benefits, and unemployment claims.
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Abby Marshall
•Would you recommend I report this to someone even if I haven't officially started working yet?
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Gael Robinson
•I'd probably give them a chance to clarify first, but if they insist that employees are responsible for unemployment taxes, then yes, you should consider reporting it.
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Edward McBride
This is why I only work for established companies now. Had too many bad experiences with small businesses that didn't know what they were doing with taxes and payroll. Your gut instinct is right to be concerned.
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Abby Marshall
•I might need to reconsider this job offer. It seemed too good to be true and maybe it is.
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Laila Prince
Update on my situation - I used that Claimyr service and actually got through to Washington ESD today! The representative was able to clear up the confusion about my eligibility in like 10 minutes. Definitely worth it if you're having trouble reaching them through normal channels.
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Abby Marshall
•That's great! I'll remember that if I run into issues with my unemployment account because of this employer situation.
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Isabel Vega
•Glad it worked out for you! It's such a relief when you can actually talk to a real person who can help.
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Darcy Moore
honestly just run. any employer who doesnt know basic payroll tax rules is going to cause you headaches. not worth the stress
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Abby Marshall
•I'm really starting to lean that way. Better to find a legitimate employer than deal with potential problems later.
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Marilyn Dixon
Final thought on this - you could also contact Washington state Department of Revenue if you suspect the employer isn't properly registered or paying required taxes. They take tax evasion seriously and it protects other potential employees too.
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Abby Marshall
•That's a good point. If they're doing this to me, they're probably doing it to other people too. Thanks everyone for all the advice, this has been really helpful in understanding the situation.
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