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Chloe Harris

Washington ESD denied my claim - reasons why you can't get unemployment benefits explained

Got my denial letter from Washington ESD yesterday and I'm trying to understand all the different reasons they can deny unemployment claims. Mine was denied because they said I was fired for misconduct, but I thought getting written up twice for being late wouldn't count as misconduct. Can someone explain all the main reasons Washington ESD will deny your claim? I want to know if I should appeal or if I'm just out of luck.

There are several main categories where Washington ESD will deny unemployment benefits. The big ones are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause, 2) Fired for misconduct, 3) Not able and available to work, 4) Not actively seeking work, 5) Insufficient earnings in your base period. For misconduct, it has to be willful or deliberate violation of company policy. Being late repeatedly could qualify as misconduct if you were warned.

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Thanks for breaking that down. I was warned about the tardiness but it was because of my bus route changing. Does that make a difference for the misconduct determination?

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It might! If you can show the tardiness was due to circumstances beyond your control and you tried to resolve it, that could help your appeal case.

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Don't give up yet! I was denied initially for 'misconduct' too but successfully appealed. You need to gather documentation showing your efforts to address the transportation issue. Washington ESD looks at whether you had reasonable alternatives and if you communicated with your employer about the problem.

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How long did your appeal take? I'm worried about paying bills while waiting for a decision.

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Mine took about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing decision. If you win, they'll pay you retroactively for the waiting period.

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That actually sounds helpful. I've wasted so many hours trying to get through to ESD.

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Other common denial reasons include: not registering with WorkSource within the required timeframe, refusing suitable work offers, being unavailable due to school or family obligations, or having your identity flagged for verification. Each category has specific appeal procedures.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? I got offered a job paying way less than my previous salary.

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After the first few weeks, you generally have to accept work paying at least 70% of your previous wage or the minimum wage, whichever is higher.

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The voluntary quit category is tricky too. Washington ESD considers things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job duties as 'good cause' for quitting. But you have to prove you tried to resolve the issues first.

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I quit because my boss was verbally abusive but didn't document anything. Am I screwed?

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Not necessarily. Witness statements, emails, or even your own written record of incidents can help. The key is showing a pattern of behavior.

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Don't forget about the base period earnings requirement! You need to have earned a certain amount in the first four of the last five completed quarters before filing. I think it's around $3,800 total with at least $1,200 in your highest quarter.

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What if you just started working recently? My previous job was part-time and I don't think I made enough.

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You might qualify using an alternate base period that includes more recent earnings. Worth asking ESD about when you call.

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This system is so confusing! I got denied because they said I wasn't 'able and available' but I am looking for work. Apparently having limited transportation counts against you even though I can get to most jobs.

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The 'able and available' requirement means you have to be ready to accept suitable work immediately. Limited transportation can be an issue if it restricts your job search area significantly.

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That seems unfair for people without cars. Public transit can get you most places in the metro area.

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I was on standby status and they denied my regular UI claim saying I should have filed for standby benefits instead. The different types of unemployment benefits are so confusing - regular UI, standby, shared work... How are we supposed to know which one to apply for?

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Standby is for temporary layoffs where you expect to return to the same employer. Regular UI is for permanent job loss. The application should ask about your employment situation to determine which type you need.

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My employer wasn't clear about whether the layoff was temporary or permanent. I guess I should have asked more questions.

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The job search requirements trip up a lot of people too. You have to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep detailed records. I know someone who got denied because their job search log wasn't specific enough.

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What kind of details do they want? I've been applying online but just writing down company names.

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They want date, employer name, position applied for, method of contact, and results. Online applications count but you need to be thorough with documentation.

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Washington ESD also denies claims for identity verification issues. With all the fraud during COVID, they're being extra strict about confirming who you are. Sometimes takes weeks to resolve even with proper documentation.

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I'm stuck in identity verification hell right now. Sent them my documents three times and they keep asking for more.

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That's exactly when services like Claimyr become really valuable. Getting an actual person on the phone can resolve those document issues much faster than waiting for the mail system.

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Criminal background can also affect eligibility, especially for certain types of jobs or if you're incarcerated. Also, if you're receiving other benefits like workers comp or disability, that can impact your unemployment claim.

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Mei Liu

I have an old misdemeanor conviction. Will that automatically disqualify me?

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Not automatically, but it might limit your job search options which could affect the 'able and available' requirement. Depends on the type of conviction and jobs you're seeking.

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Student status is another denial reason people don't expect. If you're enrolled in school more than half-time, Washington ESD considers you not available for full-time work. There are some exceptions for approved training programs.

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What about online classes or night school? I'm only taking two evening classes.

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Evening or weekend classes usually don't disqualify you as long as they don't interfere with your availability for work during normal business hours.

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Age discrimination is real but hard to prove for unemployment purposes. If you're older and having trouble finding work, ESD might question whether you're truly available or if you're being too selective about jobs.

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I'm 58 and getting nowhere with job applications. How do I prove I'm really trying when no one will hire me?

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Document everything - every application, every rejection, every response. Show you're applying to a wide range of appropriate positions, not just senior-level roles.

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Don't forget about the waiting week! Even if you qualify, there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start. And if you have any earnings during a week, that can reduce or eliminate your benefits for that week.

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I did some freelance work and reported it but they took away my whole week's benefits. Seems unfair when it was only $200.

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There's a formula they use. Generally you can earn up to about $200-300 per week before it affects your benefits, but it depends on your weekly benefit amount.

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Immigration status affects eligibility too. You need work authorization and to meet certain presence requirements. Even legal immigrants can face denial if their status doesn't allow them to work.

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I have a work visa but Washington ESD is questioning my eligibility. Is this normal?

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Yes, they have to verify work authorization for all non-citizens. Make sure you have all your immigration documents readily available.

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The appeals process is your friend if you get denied! Don't just accept the decision. I appealed a misconduct determination and won because I could prove my employer's policy wasn't clearly communicated.

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How do you prepare for an appeal hearing? I'm nervous about presenting my case.

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Gather all documentation, write out your timeline of events, and practice explaining your side clearly and calmly. The hearing officer wants to understand what really happened.

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WASHINGTON ESD IS A NIGHTMARE TO DEAL WITH!! Been trying to resolve my denial for 2 months and getting nowhere. The system is designed to discourage people from getting benefits they deserve. Keep fighting though - persistence sometimes pays off.

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I feel your frustration! The bureaucracy is insane. Have you tried going through your state representative's office? Sometimes they can help cut through the red tape.

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Didn't think of that! Worth a try at this point.

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Just want to add that even if you're denied initially, keep filing your weekly claims during the appeal process if they tell you to. If you win your appeal, you'll get paid for those weeks retroactively.

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Really? I stopped filing because I figured there was no point if I was denied.

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Big mistake! You might have lost weeks of potential benefits. Check with ESD about whether you can still file for those missed weeks.

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Medical issues can also lead to denial if they prevent you from working. Washington ESD distinguishes between temporary illness (might still qualify) and permanent disability (usually disqualifies for regular UI).

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I have chronic pain but can still work most jobs. How do I prove I'm able and available?

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Focus on what you CAN do rather than limitations. If you can perform most jobs in your field with reasonable accommodations, that should qualify you.

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The key thing to remember is that most denials can be appealed if you have good documentation and a valid argument. Don't let the initial denial discourage you from fighting for benefits you've earned through your work history.

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Thanks everyone for all this information. I'm definitely going to appeal my misconduct determination and gather evidence about my transportation issues.

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Good luck! And seriously consider using Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at ESD during your appeal process. Having an actual conversation can make a huge difference in getting things resolved.

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