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Khalil Urso

Washington ESD claim denied after minimum wage job loss - why does raising minimum wage increase unemployment?

Lost my job at a small restaurant in Tacoma when they cut staff after the minimum wage went up last year. Now Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim saying I was fired for cause but that's not true - they just couldn't afford to keep everyone. I'm trying to understand why raising minimum wage seems to increase unemployment and if this affects my appeal chances. Has anyone else dealt with this situation with Washington ESD? The owner said they had to let 3 people go because labor costs got too high.

This is actually a common issue. When minimum wage increases, some employers do reduce hours or staff to control costs. However, that doesn't mean you were fired for cause. If you were laid off due to economic reasons, you should be eligible for UI benefits. You need to appeal this decision with Washington ESD immediately.

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Thanks, I thought so too. How long do I have to file the appeal with Washington ESD? The denial letter was confusing.

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You have 30 days from the date on the determination letter. Make sure you clearly explain it was a layoff, not termination for cause.

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same thing happened to my friend last year when seattle raised theirs. small businesses cant absorb the costs like big corporations can

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Exactly! And then people wonder why there's more unemployment claims. It's basic economics - if you force wages up artificially, demand for workers goes down.

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That's an oversimplification. Studies show mixed results on minimum wage and employment. Some sectors see job losses, others don't.

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about a similar situation and can't get through their phone lines. The hold times are insane and I keep getting disconnected. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to a real person there?

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That sounds too good to be true. How does it actually work? Do they just call for you?

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The minimum wage debate is complicated but your unemployment situation is straightforward. If you were laid off due to business reasons, Washington ESD should approve your claim. The fact that it was related to wage costs doesn't matter - you weren't fired for misconduct.

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That makes sense. Should I mention the minimum wage connection in my appeal or just focus on it being a layoff?

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Focus on the layoff aspect. Mention that multiple employees were let go due to economic reasons. That's the key factor for UI eligibility.

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This is exactly why I voted against the minimum wage increases. Small businesses suffer and workers end up on unemployment anyway. It's counterproductive policy that hurts the very people it's supposed to help.

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The data doesn't support that broad conclusion. Most studies show minimal job losses and significant benefits for workers who keep their jobs.

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Tell that to this person who lost their job and got denied unemployment benefits. The 'data' doesn't match real world experience.

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Let's focus on helping with the appeal process rather than debating policy. The immediate issue is getting Washington ESD to correct their determination.

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ugh the whole system is broken. minimum wage goes up, jobs disappear, then washington esd makes it impossible to collect benefits. what are we supposed to do??

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i feel you. been there myself. the appeal process is worth it though if you have a legit case

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how long does the appeal take? i cant afford to wait months

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For your appeal, gather any documentation showing it was a mass layoff or business closure. Emails, notices, anything that proves it wasn't individual termination for cause. Washington ESD appeals are usually decided within 4-6 weeks if you provide good documentation.

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I have a text from my manager explaining they had to cut staff due to costs. Would that help?

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Absolutely! That's perfect evidence. Screenshot it and include it with your appeal paperwork.

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I work in HR and see this situation regularly. When employers cite 'economic reasons' for layoffs, it's almost always qualifying for unemployment benefits. The Washington ESD determination sounds like an error that should be easily overturned on appeal.

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That's reassuring. Do you know if there's a specific form I need to use for the appeal or just write a letter?

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There should be appeal instructions on your determination letter. Usually it's a simple form you can submit online through your Washington ESD account.

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The economic argument about minimum wage is complex but your unemployment case seems clear cut. Restaurant industry sees a lot of these situations unfortunately. Good luck with your appeal!

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Thanks! It's frustrating because I was a good employee but got caught up in the business economics.

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Update: I tried that Claimyr service someone mentioned and actually got through to Washington ESD today! Took about 20 minutes total instead of the usual hours of calling. Worth checking out if you need to discuss your appeal directly with an agent.

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How much did it cost? Seems like there should be a free way to reach them.

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I agree there should be, but the reality is their phone system is overwhelmed. This was much more efficient than what I was doing before.

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minimum wage laws have unintended consequences but that doesnt help your situation right now. focus on the appeal and get your benefits sorted out first

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You're right, I need to deal with the immediate problem. The policy debate can wait.

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For what it's worth, research shows that moderate minimum wage increases have minimal impact on employment in most cases. Your specific situation might be more about the restaurant's particular financial situation than the wage law itself.

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Academic research vs real world results. This person lost their job directly because of the wage increase.

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Correlation isn't causation. The restaurant might have had other financial issues. But regardless, the unemployment claim should be approved.

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been through this exact situation. washington esd initially denied my claim too but the appeal was successful. just make sure you emphasize it was a reduction in force, not individual termination

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How long did your appeal take to get resolved?

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about 5 weeks from filing to decision. they also paid me the back benefits once it was approved

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The restaurant industry is particularly sensitive to labor cost changes. Many operate on thin margins so any increase in costs can force difficult decisions. Doesn't make it right but explains the pattern.

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That's what my former manager said. They were barely breaking even before the wage increase.

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File your appeal ASAP and don't wait. The 30-day deadline is firm and Washington ESD won't extend it even if you have a good excuse. Get your documentation together and submit everything at once.

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Working on it now. Thanks for the urgency reminder - I don't want to miss the deadline.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr recommendation. I've used it twice now for Washington ESD issues and it's been really helpful both times. Especially when you need to explain complex situations like this layoff scenario.

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Do they help with appeal cases or just general claim questions?

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They get you connected to the right Washington ESD department. For appeals, you'd want to reach the appeals unit specifically.

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Whatever your views on minimum wage policy, this person deserves their unemployment benefits. Being laid off due to business costs is exactly what UI is designed to cover.

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Exactly! I paid into the system and should be able to use it when I need it through no fault of my own.

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good luck with your appeal. the system is frustrating but dont give up. you have a strong case based on what youve described

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Thanks for the encouragement. I'll keep fighting it.

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I've seen this scenario play out multiple times in different industries. The key is documenting that it was an economic layoff affecting multiple employees, not individual performance issues. Washington ESD should reverse their decision once they see the evidence.

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That gives me confidence. I have good documentation that shows it was company-wide cuts.

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Perfect. Include everything in your appeal packet and be thorough in your explanation. Better to provide too much information than too little.

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Hope this gets resolved quickly for you. Unemployment system can be confusing but appeals often work when you have legitimate cases like this one.

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Thank you! I'm feeling more optimistic about the appeal after reading everyone's advice here.

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