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Finley Garrett

If you get fired can you still get unemployment in Washington - ESD eligibility question

So I got terminated from my job last week and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I've heard mixed things about whether you can get UI if you were fired vs if you quit. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I think it was really because I had some conflicts with my supervisor. I've been working there for 2 years and never had any write-ups until the last month. Can I still apply for unemployment or am I automatically disqualified since I was fired? I really need to know before I waste time filing a claim.

Madison Tipne

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Yes you can definitely still get unemployment if you were fired! The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job. You should absolutely file a claim.

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That's a relief to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct then? I was never written up for anything serious, just some disagreements with my boss about how to handle certain tasks.

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Madison Tipne

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Misconduct usually means things like theft, violence, repeatedly showing up late after warnings, or willfully violating company policies. Disagreements with your supervisor definitely wouldn't qualify as misconduct.

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i got fired from my last job too and still got benefits. took forever to get through to anyone at washington esd though, kept getting busy signals

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Malia Ponder

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Tell me about it! I've been trying to call them for weeks about my adjudication and can never get through. It's so frustrating when you need answers.

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Kyle Wallace

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Have you tried using Claimyr? I found them recently and they actually got me through to a Washington ESD agent within like 10 minutes. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Malia Ponder

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Never heard of that but at this point I'm willing to try anything. The regular phone system is completely broken.

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Ryder Ross

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The Washington ESD will investigate your termination during the adjudication process. They'll contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story. If your employer can't prove misconduct, you'll be approved for benefits. Make sure you have documentation of your side of things ready.

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What kind of documentation should I gather? I have some emails where my supervisor was being unreasonable but I'm not sure if that helps my case.

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Ryder Ross

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Keep those emails! Also any performance reviews, employee handbook references, witness statements from coworkers if possible. Anything that shows you weren't committing misconduct.

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Good point about the employee handbook. I should check if they even followed their own progressive discipline policy before firing me.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's better to file and let Washington ESD make the determination. You can always appeal if they deny you initially.

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How long does the whole process usually take? I'm worried about paying my bills while this gets sorted out.

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If there's no issues it can be pretty quick, but with adjudication it might take 3-6 weeks. That's why filing immediately is so important - the sooner you file, the sooner the process starts.

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Henry Delgado

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UGH the whole system is so messed up! I was fired for 'attitude problems' which is total BS and they still made me wait 5 weeks for adjudication. Meanwhile I'm behind on rent and can't get anyone on the phone to explain what's happening.

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Olivia Kay

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I feel you on the phone thing. That's exactly why I ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Worth every penny to actually talk to a human being at Washington ESD.

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5 weeks seems really long for adjudication. Did they tell you what was taking so long?

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Madison Tipne

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Just to clarify something important - even if your employer contests your claim, that doesn't automatically disqualify you. Washington ESD makes the final decision based on the facts, not just what your employer says.

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That's good to know. I'm pretty sure my employer will contest it because they seem to contest everything just to be difficult.

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Joshua Hellan

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My employer contested mine too but I still got approved. They said I was fired for poor performance but couldn't provide any documentation to back it up. Washington ESD saw right through it.

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Jibriel Kohn

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been through this exact situation before. got fired for supposedly not meeting sales targets but really it was because my manager didn't like me. filed for UI and got approved after about 4 weeks of adjudication. just make sure you're honest on your application about why you were terminated

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Did you mention the personality conflict with your manager in your application or just stick to the official reason they gave?

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Jibriel Kohn

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i mentioned both - the official reason they gave AND my perspective on what really happened. washington esd wants to hear your side of the story too

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Quick question - do you have to do the job search requirements right away or can you wait until your claim is approved? I don't want to mess anything up.

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Madison Tipne

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You should start your job search activities as soon as you file your claim, even during adjudication. You'll need to log your job search activities in WorkSourceWA.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about that. Better to be proactive with the job search requirements.

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Don't let them intimidate you! I know someone who got fired for 'insubordination' just because they questioned a safety violation and they still got unemployment. The bar for misconduct is actually pretty high.

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That's encouraging. My situation definitely doesn't sound like misconduct based on what everyone's saying here.

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James Johnson

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Exactly! Standing up for yourself at work isn't misconduct. These employers just try to scare people into not filing claims.

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One more thing to remember - if Washington ESD denies your initial claim, you can appeal within 30 days. Don't give up if you get a denial letter, especially if you think you were wrongfully terminated.

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Good to know about the appeal option. Hopefully it won't come to that but at least I have a backup plan.

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Kyle Wallace

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And if you need help during the appeal process, that's another time when Claimyr can be really helpful for getting through to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your case.

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Mia Green

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just file the claim already! worst case scenario they say no and you're in the same position you're in now. best case you get benefits while you look for a new job

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file online tonight. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice!

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Emma Bianchi

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Good luck! Hope your adjudication goes smoothly and you get approved quickly.

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