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Callum Savage

How to fill out Washington ESD unemployment for self-employed - totally confused

I ran a small consulting business that basically dried up and I'm trying to figure out how to apply for unemployment through Washington ESD. I've never had to deal with this before and the application is asking for employer information that doesn't really apply to my situation. Do I put myself as the employer? What about the separation reason - there's no option for 'business failed'? I'm also confused about the wage information since I didn't get W-2s, just 1099s. Has anyone else been through this process as a self-employed person?

Self-employed individuals can qualify for regular unemployment benefits in Washington if you paid into the system through the Voluntary Unemployment Insurance program. If you didn't pay into that program, you unfortunately won't qualify for regular UI benefits. The application process is different - you'll need to show your Schedule C from your tax returns and business records.

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I didn't even know about a voluntary program! I definitely never paid into anything like that. Does that mean I'm out of luck completely?

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Not necessarily out of luck, but you won't qualify for regular state unemployment. You might want to check if there are any other assistance programs available, but the regular UI system requires you to have paid premiums.

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Wait, are you sure about this? I thought self-employed people could get benefits now after all the changes. My cousin was self-employed and got unemployment last year.

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Your cousin might have been eligible for pandemic-era programs like PUA (Pandemic Unemployment Assistance) which ended in 2021. Those programs specifically helped self-employed individuals who couldn't normally qualify for regular UI.

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Oh that makes sense. Yeah this was during COVID times so probably different rules then.

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The whole system is set up for traditional employees, not people like us who work for ourselves. It's frustrating that they make it so complicated when your business fails through no fault of your own.

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Exactly! My catering business went under because of supply chain issues but apparently that doesn't matter to Washington ESD.

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Sorry to hear that. It's like they expect everyone to work for big corporations forever.

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Actually, let me clarify something important. Washington State does have the Voluntary Unemployment Insurance program for self-employed individuals, but you have to sign up for it BEFORE you need benefits. You can't apply for it after your business has already failed. For 2025, you needed to have been paying premiums quarterly.

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Well that's frustrating. Wish I had known about this option earlier. Is there anything else I can look into?

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You might want to check with DSHS about other assistance programs, or look into whether you qualify for any local small business assistance programs.

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I'm in the same boat - had a freelance design business that completely tanked. Even if we can't get unemployment, are there other resources? This is really stressful.

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Check with your local WorkSource office - they might have resources for people transitioning from self-employment to traditional employment, including job search assistance.

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Thanks, I'll look into that. Anything helps at this point.

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The key thing people don't realize is that unemployment insurance is exactly that - insurance. Just like car insurance, you have to pay premiums to be covered. Most self-employed people never opt into the voluntary program because they don't think they'll need it.

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This is so true. I wish they made this clearer when you start a business. Nobody tells you about these things.

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Exactly. It's one of those things you learn the hard way unfortunately.

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Can I ask - for those who did pay into the voluntary program, how does the application process work? Do you still have to fill out employer information?

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Yes, you would list yourself as the employer and use your business information. The separation reason would be something like 'business closure' or 'lack of work.' You'd submit your Schedule C and quarterly payment records as proof.

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That makes sense. Wish I had known to sign up for this when I started my business three years ago.

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Has anyone tried just applying anyway to see what happens? Maybe they'll accept the application and figure it out later?

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That's not a good idea. If you're not eligible and they approve you by mistake, you'll end up with an overpayment that you'll have to pay back later. Better to know for sure first.

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Good point. I guess I need to find out definitively whether I'm eligible or not.

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I actually used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it was really helpful. The Washington ESD agent I spoke with was able to pull up my records and confirm that I never paid into the voluntary program, so I knew right away I wasn't eligible for regular UI benefits. Saved me from filing an application that would just get denied.

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That's exactly what I need - just to know for sure one way or the other. The uncertainty is killing me.

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Yeah, it's worth it just for the peace of mind. At least then you can focus your energy on other options instead of waiting around.

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For what it's worth, I was self-employed and never paid into the voluntary program, but I was able to get hired as a contractor and then became eligible for regular unemployment when that contract ended. Might be worth looking into contract work to get back into the system.

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That's actually a smart strategy. Get back into traditional employment even if it's temporary, and then you're covered if something happens.

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Exactly. It's not ideal but at least provides some safety net while you figure out your next move.

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This whole thread is making me realize how much I don't know about unemployment benefits. Are there other programs like this that self-employed people should know about?

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Disability insurance is another one - you can pay into that as self-employed too. Also worth looking into business interruption insurance for future protection.

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Thanks for the heads up. Definitely going to research these options more thoroughly.

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The frustrating thing is that as self-employed, we pay self-employment taxes which include Social Security and Medicare, but we don't get unemployment coverage unless we specifically opt in. Seems backwards.

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That's because unemployment is administered at the state level, not federal. Each state has its own system and rules.

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Makes sense but still frustrating when you're in this situation.

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I'm curious - how much does the voluntary unemployment insurance cost? Is it worth it for small business owners?

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It's based on your reported income and varies, but it's relatively affordable compared to the benefits you could receive. For 2025, I think the rate is around 0.5% of your net self-employment income.

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That doesn't sound too bad. Wish I had known about this option earlier.

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At this point I'm just trying to figure out what other assistance programs might be available. Has anyone looked into food assistance or other support while transitioning from self-employment?

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DSHS has several programs that might help - food assistance, medical coverage, even emergency cash assistance in some cases. Worth applying for whatever you might qualify for.

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Thanks, I'll look into that. Every little bit helps right now.

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One more option to consider - if you have any 1099 income from this year, you might be able to file a claim based on that work if the client considers you an employee rather than a contractor. It's worth checking into.

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That's a good point about worker classification. Some companies misclassify employees as contractors when they should be getting W-2s.

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Exactly. It's worth investigating if you had any long-term contracts where you were working like an employee.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm in a similar situation and didn't know about any of these programs. Going to call Washington ESD tomorrow to see what my options are.

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Good luck getting through! I'd recommend trying that Claimyr service if you can't get through on your own - it really does work.

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Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try that if I can't get through the regular way.

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The bottom line is that most self-employed people aren't eligible for regular unemployment benefits unless they specifically paid into the voluntary program. It's harsh but that's how the system works.

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Yeah, I'm starting to accept that reality. At least now I know for sure and can focus on other options.

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That's the right attitude. Better to know the truth and move forward than keep hoping for something that isn't going to happen.

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For anyone reading this who is still self-employed - seriously consider signing up for the voluntary unemployment insurance program. You never know when you might need it, and it's much cheaper than trying to survive without any income.

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This is excellent advice. I'm going to sign up as soon as I can get my business back on track.

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Smart move. It's one of those things you hope you never need but are really glad to have if you do.

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Thanks everyone for all the information. This thread has been more helpful than anything I found on the Washington ESD website. At least now I know what my options are and aren't.

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Glad we could help! That's what this forum is for - sharing real experiences and information that's hard to find elsewhere.

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Agreed - you all saved me a lot of time and frustration trying to figure this out on my own.

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I'm in a really similar situation - my graphic design business completely dried up after losing my biggest client. Reading through all these comments has been eye-opening. I had no idea about the voluntary unemployment insurance program either, and like most of you, I'm definitely not eligible since I never paid into it. It's frustrating that as self-employed people we're kind of left out in the cold when things go wrong. I'm going to look into some of the other resources mentioned here like WorkSource and DSHS programs. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - at least now I know I'm not alone in this situation and there might be some other options out there.

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