Can I apply for unemployment if I was self employed in Washington?
I've been running my own consulting business for the past 2 years but had to shut it down due to lack of clients. Never had employees, just worked as an independent contractor. I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD even though I was self-employed? I've been paying into the system through my previous W-2 jobs but not sure if that matters now. Has anyone been in a similar situation?
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Alicia Stern
Yes, you can potentially qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington even if you were recently self-employed. What matters is your work history and earnings from W-2 employment during your base period, which is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. Your self-employment income generally doesn't count toward your UI benefit calculation, but it also doesn't disqualify you if you have sufficient W-2 wages in your base period.
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Alexander Zeus
•Thanks! So they'll look at my W-2 jobs from before I started my business? That would be about 2-3 years ago.
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Alicia Stern
•Exactly. They'll check your earnings from covered employment during your base period. If you don't have enough wages in the standard base period, you can request an alternative base period which uses more recent quarters.
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Gabriel Graham
I was in almost the exact same situation last year. Had my own small marketing business, couldn't make it work anymore. Washington ESD approved my claim based on my previous job at a tech company. Just make sure you report that your business is officially closed when you file.
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Alexander Zeus
•That's encouraging! Did you have any issues with the application process or did it go smoothly?
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Gabriel Graham
•Pretty smooth actually. Just had to provide documentation that I closed the business and wasn't earning any income from it anymore.
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Drake
You should definitely apply, but be prepared for potential delays. Washington ESD sometimes puts self-employment cases into adjudication to verify you're not still earning income from your business. I waited almost 6 weeks for my claim to get approved because they had to investigate my business closure.
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Alexander Zeus
•6 weeks sounds rough! What kind of documentation did they ask for?
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Drake
•Bank statements, business license cancellation, final tax returns, stuff like that. Nothing too crazy but took time to gather everything.
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Sarah Jones
If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions about your specific situation, I found this service called Claimyr that actually gets you connected to a real person at the unemployment office. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals.
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Alexander Zeus
•Interesting, I'll check that out. I've been dreading trying to call Washington ESD.
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Sebastian Scott
•Never heard of this before but if it actually works that would be amazing. The phone lines are always jammed.
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Emily Sanjay
The key thing is being completely honest about your self-employment status. Don't try to hide it or they'll find out anyway and could deny your claim for fraud. As long as you're not actively earning income from the business anymore, you should be fine.
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Alexander Zeus
•Absolutely, I want to be totally upfront about everything. Better to be honest from the start.
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Jordan Walker
•This is so important. I know someone who got in trouble for not disclosing their side business even though it wasn't making money.
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Natalie Adams
Wait, I thought self-employed people couldn't get unemployment at all? This is news to me. I've been putting off applying because I assumed I wouldn't qualify.
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Alicia Stern
•Common misconception! Self-employed people can't get benefits based on self-employment income, but they can still qualify based on previous W-2 employment if they meet the wage requirements.
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Natalie Adams
•Wow, I had no idea. I need to look into this more seriously then.
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Elijah O'Reilly
One thing to watch out for - make sure you're truly available for work and not still trying to restart your business. Washington ESD requires you to be able and available for employment, which means you can't be focused on getting your business back up and running.
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Alexander Zeus
•Good point. I'm definitely done with the business route for now and ready to go back to regular employment.
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Amara Torres
•Yeah they're pretty strict about the available for work requirement. You have to be genuinely looking for a job.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
I tried to apply after my photography business failed and got denied because I didn't have enough wages in my base period. All my previous work was too old. Make sure you check your wage history before getting your hopes up.
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Alexander Zeus
•That's a good reality check. Where can I check my wage history?
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•You can request a wage and benefit statement from Washington ESD or check your Social Security earnings record online.
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Mason Kaczka
The whole system is so confusing. I've been self-employed for 5 years and never thought I could get unemployment. Now I'm wondering if I should have applied when my business struggled during the pandemic.
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Alicia Stern
•During the pandemic there were special programs like PUA for self-employed people, but those ended in 2021. Regular UI rules are different.
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Mason Kaczka
•Ah okay, that makes sense. I remember hearing about those special programs but never looked into them.
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Sophia Russo
Just file the claim and let Washington ESD sort it out. Worst case they say no, but you won't know until you try. The application process isn't that complicated.
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Alexander Zeus
•You're right, I should just go for it. Nothing to lose by applying.
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Evelyn Xu
•Exactly! I was worried about all kinds of things that never ended up being issues.
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Dominic Green
I had a friend who used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. She said it was way easier than trying to get through on the phone normally. Might be worth it if you need to talk to someone about your specific situation.
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Alexander Zeus
•I'm definitely considering it. I have some specific questions about my business closure that I'd like to ask directly.
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Hannah Flores
•I looked at their website and it seems legit. Anything that helps avoid sitting on hold for hours sounds good to me.
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Kayla Jacobson
Make sure you have all your business records organized before you apply. They might ask for proof that you're no longer operating, like cancelled business licenses or final tax filings.
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Alexander Zeus
•Good advice. I should gather all that paperwork before I start the application.
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William Rivera
•Yeah, better to have everything ready than to scramble for documents later.
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Grace Lee
The timing of when you file matters too. You can't file for unemployment benefits for any week you earned income from self-employment, even if it was just a small amount. Make sure your business is completely shut down before you file.
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Alexander Zeus
•That's a crucial detail. I did have one small payment come in last month that I hadn't thought about.
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Grace Lee
•You'll need to report any income during your weekly claims, so make sure you're completely done with business activities first.
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Mia Roberts
I went through this whole process last year and the biggest thing that helped was having someone at Washington ESD explain exactly what they needed from me. That Claimyr thing actually worked - I got connected to an agent who walked me through everything over the phone.
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Alexander Zeus
•That sounds like exactly what I need. I'll definitely look into that service.
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The Boss
•Having someone explain the process directly would be so much better than trying to figure it out from the website.
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Evan Kalinowski
Don't forget about the job search requirements once you start collecting benefits. You'll need to actively look for work and document your job search activities.
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Alexander Zeus
•Right, I need to be prepared for that part too. Thanks for the reminder.
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Victoria Charity
•Yeah, they take the job search requirements seriously. You have to log your activities and be ready to provide details if asked.
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Jasmine Quinn
Good luck with your application! It sounds like you have a decent chance of qualifying based on your previous W-2 work. Just be patient with the process and keep all your documentation organized.
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Alexander Zeus
•Thank you! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about applying now.
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Oscar Murphy
•This whole discussion has been really informative. I learned a lot about self-employment and unemployment benefits.
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