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Eloise Kendrick

How many pay stubs do you need for unemployment Washington ESD claim

I'm getting ready to file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD and want to make sure I have all the right paperwork. Does anyone know exactly how many pay stubs I need to provide when filing my initial claim? I have my last 6 pay stubs saved but not sure if that's overkill or if I need more. Also do they need to be recent or can I use older ones if I was laid off a few weeks ago? Really don't want to mess this up and cause delays.

You typically need your most recent pay stubs covering the last 18 months of work history. Washington ESD uses this to calculate your weekly benefit amount based on your highest earning quarter. I'd recommend keeping at least 8-10 recent pay stubs handy when you file your initial claim.

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Thanks! So 6 might not be enough then. I'll gather up more from my files.

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Actually you don't always need physical pay stubs anymore since most employers report wages electronically to Washington ESD. But having them helps if there's any discrepancy.

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I just filed last month and they asked for pay stubs from my last employer covering the past 6 months. Had to upload them through the SecureAccess Washington portal. Make sure they're clear scans or photos.

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Good to know about uploading them digitally. Did your claim get processed quickly after submitting the stubs?

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Took about 10 days for my claim to be approved after I submitted everything. No issues once I had all the documentation.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks.

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Yeah it worked for me when I needed to check on my adjudication status. Way easier than spending hours redialing the main number.

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This is so confusing!! I have pay stubs going back 2 years but some are from different jobs. Do I need ALL of them or just from my most recent employer??? And what if one of my old employers went out of business?

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You'll need pay stubs from ALL employers during your base period, which is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. If an employer went out of business, Washington ESD should still have their wage reports on file.

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Okay that helps but how do I figure out what my base period is exactly? This is getting overwhelming.

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Here's what I learned when I filed - Washington ESD will calculate your benefits based on wages reported by your employers, but if there's missing or incorrect wage information, that's when you'll need your pay stubs as backup documentation. I'd say having 12-18 months worth is safe.

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This makes sense. Better to have too many than not enough and delay your claim.

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Good point about using them as backup. I'll collect everything I can find just in case.

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honestly the washington esd system is such a mess, they ask for different things from different people. my friend only needed 3 pay stubs but they wanted 8 from me. makes no sense

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Probably depends on your work history and if there are any red flags in your file that need verification.

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maybe but they never explained why they needed more from me. just frustrating when you're already stressed about being unemployed

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When I worked at H&R Block we always told clients to keep 2 years of pay stubs for tax purposes, so that should cover you for unemployment too. The key thing is making sure they show your gross wages clearly.

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That's good advice about the gross wages being clear. Some of my older stubs are pretty faded.

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If they're faded you might want to contact your old employer's payroll department to get clean copies. Washington ESD can be picky about documentation quality.

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Does anyone know if they accept electronic pay stubs or do they have to be paper copies? My company went all digital last year.

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Electronic pay stubs are fine as long as they contain all the same information as paper ones - your name, employer info, pay period dates, gross and net wages, deductions, etc.

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Perfect, that makes it easier since I can just download PDFs from our payroll portal.

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I'm in a similar boat and trying to be prepared. Also wondering - if you get severance pay, do you need documentation of that too? I got 2 weeks severance when I was laid off.

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Yes, definitely report any severance pay. It might affect when your benefits start or the amount. You should have documentation showing the severance amount and pay period it covers.

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Thanks, I'll make sure to include that paperwork when I file.

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Pro tip: make copies of everything before you submit it. I submitted my original pay stubs and then they asked for additional documentation later but I didn't have copies. Had to request duplicates from my employer which delayed everything by 2 weeks.

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Oh wow, good catch. I would have definitely made that same mistake.

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Or just scan everything to PDF so you have digital backups. Makes it easier to resubmit if needed.

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Question about pay stubs - what if you had a job where you got paid cash under the table? Obviously that won't show up on official records but it was legitimate work.

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If it was legitimate work, your employer should have been reporting it and taking out taxes. If they weren't, that's a whole different problem and you might not get credit for those wages.

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Yeah I figured that might be an issue. Lesson learned about working for employers who don't follow the rules.

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I had to provide 15 months of pay stubs because I had worked for 3 different employers during my base period. Washington ESD needed to verify wages from each one. It was a pain but necessary to get my full benefit amount.

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15 months sounds like a lot but I guess if it gets you the right benefit amount it's worth the hassle.

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Exactly. My benefit amount would have been $200 less per week if they hadn't counted wages from my second job.

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Just wanted to add that if you're struggling to get through to Washington ESD about documentation requirements, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does work. I used it last week to ask about my specific situation and actually got to talk to a real person. Way better than the automated system.

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How much does it cost though? I'm unemployed so I don't have extra money to spend on phone services.

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I think it's pretty reasonable considering how much time it saves you from calling over and over. Check out their site for current info.

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The key thing people are missing here is that Washington ESD has access to wage records from most employers through their quarterly reporting system. You usually only need pay stubs if there's a discrepancy or if you worked for an employer who didn't report wages properly.

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That's reassuring. So having 6 recent pay stubs might be enough as backup documentation then?

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For most situations, yes. But if you have them, there's no harm in gathering more comprehensive records just to be safe.

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One more thing to consider - if you worked overtime regularly, make sure your pay stubs clearly show those hours and wages. That can significantly impact your benefit calculation since Washington ESD looks at your highest earning quarter.

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Good point about overtime. I worked a ton of OT last year so I'll make sure those pay stubs are included.

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Definitely do that. Overtime wages count toward your base period wages and can bump up your weekly benefit amount substantially.

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This thread has been super helpful. I was only planning to keep my last 4 pay stubs but now I realize I should gather up at least 12-18 months worth just to be thorough. Better safe than sorry when it comes to unemployment documentation.

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Same here! This discussion definitely helped me understand what I need to collect before filing.

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Glad this helped everyone. Good luck with your claims!

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Final thought - if you're self-employed or have 1099 income, that's completely different documentation requirements. You'll need tax returns and 1099 forms instead of pay stubs. Just wanted to mention that in case anyone reading this has mixed employment types.

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Thanks for bringing up 1099 work. That's a whole different beast when it comes to unemployment eligibility.

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Right, and the rules for gig workers and contractors have changed a lot in recent years. Worth researching if that applies to your situation.

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Update on the Claimyr thing - I tried it today and actually got through to Washington ESD in like 15 minutes. Agent confirmed I need pay stubs from the last 18 months but only from jobs where I worked more than 30 days. Super helpful to get that clarification directly from them.

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That's exactly the kind of specific info I needed! Thanks for reporting back on what the agent told you.

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30 days minimum makes sense. Saves you from having to track down stubs from really short-term jobs.

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For what it's worth, I just filed my claim yesterday and the online system only asked me to upload pay stubs if there were wage discrepancies. Since my employer reported everything correctly, I didn't need to provide any additional documentation. The system is pretty smart about matching up wage records.

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That's encouraging! Hopefully my employer reported everything correctly too and I won't need to provide extra documentation.

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Keep those pay stubs handy just in case, but you might not need them if everything matches up in their system.

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Bottom line from reading all these responses: gather 12-18 months of pay stubs from all your jobs, make copies or scan them, have them ready when you file, but don't panic if you don't have every single one. Washington ESD has most wage information already and will let you know if they need additional documentation.

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Perfect summary! This gives me a clear action plan for getting my documentation together.

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Agreed, this thread covered all the main points someone would need to know about pay stub requirements.

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