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How does an employee filing for unemployment affect the employer - Washington ESD impact questions

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD after my hours got cut to almost nothing at my retail job. My manager made some comment about how filing would 'hurt the company' and now I'm worried. Does filing for unemployment actually affect my employer in any way? I don't want to cause problems but I really need the financial help right now. What exactly happens on the employer side when someone files a claim with Washington ESD?

Your employer's unemployment insurance tax rate can be affected by claims filed against them. Washington ESD uses what's called an 'experience rating' system - basically, the more claims filed against a company, the higher their tax rate goes. But this shouldn't stop you from filing if you're eligible. That's what the system is there for.

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So they do have to pay more if I file? I feel bad about that but I literally can't pay rent with 8 hours a week.

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Don't feel bad! They've been paying into this system specifically for situations like yours. It's unemployment insurance - they're insured against having to pay you directly when they can't provide full work.

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The employer gets notified when you file and they can contest your claim if they think you're not eligible. They have to provide information about why you left or had hours reduced. But if it's a legitimate layoff or hour reduction, they usually don't fight it.

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What kind of information do they have to provide to Washington ESD?

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Stuff like your last day worked, reason for separation, wages paid, whether you quit or were laid off. Pretty standard employment verification stuff.

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How much does that cost? I'm already broke which is why I need unemployment in the first place.

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Your manager is being manipulative. Yes, claims affect their tax rate, but that's literally how the unemployment insurance system works. They pay premiums when times are good so benefits are available when times are bad. Don't let them guilt you out of filing.

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That's what I was thinking but they made it sound like I'd be personally costing them thousands of dollars.

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The increase in their tax rate is usually pretty small unless they have a pattern of lots of layoffs. And again, this is what the system is designed for.

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Exactly. It's not like you're taking money directly out of their pocket. It's insurance they're required to carry.

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I filed last year when my restaurant closed temporarily and my old boss tried the same guilt trip. Turns out their tax rate barely changed because they had a good history with few claims. File if you need it - that's your right as an employee who had taxes taken out for this exact purpose.

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Did they contest your claim at all?

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Nope. They filled out the forms Washington ESD sent them and that was it. Most employers don't contest legitimate claims because it's not worth their time.

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There's also a waiting period where the employer can provide additional information if they think the claim isn't valid. But for hour reductions, it's usually pretty straightforward - you're partially unemployed through no fault of your own.

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How long is the waiting period?

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I think it's about 10 days for the employer to respond to Washington ESD. Then there might be adjudication if there are any issues to resolve.

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The bottom line is that unemployment benefits exist for exactly your situation. Your employer has been paying unemployment insurance taxes precisely so that benefits would be available when needed. Don't let them make you feel guilty for using a system they're required to participate in.

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This makes me feel a lot better about filing. I was really worried I'd be screwing them over.

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You're not screwing anyone over. You're using a safety net that exists because sometimes employers can't provide full-time work. That's not your fault.

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Just make sure you're honest on your application about your work situation. If your hours were cut involuntarily, that's a legitimate reason for partial unemployment benefits. Washington ESD will verify everything with your employer anyway.

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I definitely will be honest. My hours went from 35-40 per week down to 8-12 per week with no explanation.

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That sounds like a clear case for partial benefits. You should be fine as long as you report any wages you do earn each week.

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I'm an HR manager and I can tell you that most employers understand that unemployment claims are part of doing business. The tax rate increase is usually minimal unless there's a pattern of excessive claims. Your manager was probably just venting frustration about business costs in general.

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That's really helpful to hear from someone on the employer side. I was starting to think I was doing something wrong by even considering filing.

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Not at all. Unemployment insurance is there to bridge the gap when employers can't provide adequate work. It's a social safety net that benefits everyone.

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Also worth noting that if you do file, you'll need to continue looking for work and report your job search activities to Washington ESD. The system is designed to help people get back to full employment, not just provide indefinite support.

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Yeah I saw that requirement when I was reading about it. How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week for Washington ESD, but check their website for the current requirements. Activities can include applications, interviews, networking events, etc.

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Don't let your employer intimidate you. I had the same situation at my last job and my boss kept saying how expensive it would be for them. I looked it up and found out their tax rate would go up by like 0.1% or something tiny. They were being dramatic.

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0.1%? That's nothing! My manager made it sound like it would bankrupt them.

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Right? They were probably just hoping you wouldn't file so they could keep your hours low without any consequences. Classic manipulation tactic.

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The whole point of unemployment insurance is risk pooling. All employers pay in when times are good so the system can pay out when times are bad. Your individual claim is a drop in the bucket compared to the overall system.

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That makes a lot of sense when you put it that way.

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Exactly. It's like any other insurance - you pay premiums hoping you never need it, but it's there when you do.

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I used to work in payroll and can confirm that unemployment tax rates are based on the employer's experience rating over several years. One claim won't dramatically impact their rate unless they have a terrible track record of layoffs and claims.

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How do they calculate the experience rating?

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It's based on the ratio of benefits paid out to former employees versus the total taxable wages over a certain period. The more claims relative to wages, the higher the rate.

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I haven't filed yet but I'll keep that in mind if I run into issues. Thanks!

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No problem. The regular Washington ESD phone lines are basically impossible to get through on, especially during busy periods.

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File your claim. Your employer has been paying unemployment insurance taxes specifically for situations like yours. It's not charity - it's an insurance program you've contributed to through your work.

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I think I'm going to go ahead and file. Everyone here has been really helpful in explaining how it actually works.

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Good for you. Don't let them guilt you out of benefits you're entitled to.

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The employer notification process is pretty standard. They get a form asking about your employment, wages, and reason for separation. If everything matches what you reported, there's usually no issue. Only contested claims go to adjudication.

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What happens if they do contest it?

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Then Washington ESD reviews all the information and makes a determination. You'd have a chance to provide your side of the story too.

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Also remember that retaliation for filing unemployment is illegal. Your employer can't fire you or treat you differently just because you filed a claim. Not that it sounds like you have much to lose with only 8 hours a week anyway.

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Good point. At this point I need more hours or I need benefits - I can't survive on what they're giving me.

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Exactly. You're in a tough spot and unemployment benefits are designed for exactly this situation. Use them.

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One last thing - make sure you understand how partial unemployment works. You can usually earn up to a certain amount before your benefits start getting reduced. Washington ESD has calculators on their website to help you figure out what you can earn.

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I'll definitely check that out. I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly.

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Smart approach. The rules can be confusing but Washington ESD's website has good explanations of how partial benefits work.

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Bottom line: file if you're eligible. Your employer's tax rate might go up slightly, but that's how the system is supposed to work. They pay when they can't provide work, and employees get support to bridge the gap. Don't let them make you feel guilty about using a system that exists for exactly your situation.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much better about filing now that I understand how it actually works.

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You're welcome! Good luck with your claim. Hope you can get back to full-time work soon.

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