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Zachary Hughes

Does receiving a pension affect Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm 58 and just got laid off from my job at Boeing after 22 years. I'm eligible for unemployment but I also have a small pension from a previous employer that pays me $340 per month. Will Washington ESD reduce my unemployment benefits because of this pension? I can't find clear information anywhere and I'm worried about reporting it wrong on my weekly claims.

Yes, pension income can affect your Washington ESD benefits. If you receive a pension from a base period employer (someone you worked for during the time period used to establish your claim), they will deduct the weekly pension amount from your unemployment benefits. But if it's from an employer outside your base period, it might not affect your benefits at all.

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The pension is from a job I had 5 years ago, not from Boeing. Does that mean it won't affect my benefits?

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That's a good sign! Since it's from 5 years ago, it's likely outside your base period. Washington ESD looks at the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. You'll still need to report it on your weekly claims though.

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i think any pension counts against you but im not sure. my dad had this problem last year and they kept asking him about it

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That's not necessarily true. It depends on when and where the pension comes from. Washington ESD has specific rules about base period employers vs. non-base period employers.

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oh ok didnt know that. washington esd makes everything so complicated

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I went through this exact situation last year. Had a small pension from a previous employer and was worried it would mess up my unemployment. Turns out the key is whether the pension is from a 'base period employer.' If it's not, you just report it but it doesn't reduce your benefits. The tricky part is getting through to Washington ESD to confirm this - their phone lines are always jammed.

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How did you finally get through to them? I've been trying to call for days and either get disconnected or the system says they're too busy.

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ALWAYS report any income including pensions on your weekly claims! Even if it doesn't reduce your benefits, failing to report it can cause major problems later. Washington ESD will eventually find out and you could face an overpayment demand or even fraud charges.

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Definitely planning to report it. Just wanted to understand if I should expect a reduction in my weekly benefit amount.

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Good call on reporting everything. I've seen people get in trouble for not reporting small amounts thinking it wouldn't matter.

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This is so confusing!!! I'm in a similar situation and have been going crazy trying to figure this out. Why can't Washington ESD just have clear information on their website? Everything is buried in legal language that makes no sense.

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I agree their website is confusing. The basic rule is: pension from base period employer = reduction, pension from non-base period employer = no reduction but still report it.

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Thank you! That's the clearest explanation I've seen. Still wish Washington ESD would just say it that simply.

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The pension offset rules are in RCW 50.20.050 if anyone wants to read the actual law. Basically, if you receive a pension from employment during your base period, Washington ESD will reduce your weekly benefit by the prorated weekly pension amount. If the pension is from employment outside your base period, there's no reduction.

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Thanks for the legal reference. That confirms what others have said about base period vs non-base period employers.

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Wow, someone who actually looked up the law! Most people just guess about this stuff.

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I had a pension from my old job and it didn't affect my unemployment at all. Just had to check the box on my weekly claim form.

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Was your pension from a job within the last 18 months or longer ago?

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It was from like 3 years ago, so probably outside the base period.

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Here's what I learned when I dealt with this: Your base period is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you filed your claim. So if you filed in January 2025, your base period would be January 2024 through September 2024. If your pension is from employment during that time, it counts against your benefits.

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That's really helpful! My pension is definitely from before that time period, so it sounds like I should be okay.

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This is the best explanation of base period I've seen. Washington ESD should hire you to write their FAQ!

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The whole system is designed to screw over working people. You work your whole life, pay into unemployment insurance, and then they want to take away benefits because you have a tiny pension? It's ridiculous.

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I understand the frustration, but the rule does make some sense. They don't want people double-dipping from the same employer - getting both unemployment and pension from the same work period.

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I guess that makes sense for the same employer, but the rules are still way too complicated for regular people to understand.

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Whatever you do, don't try to hide the pension. Washington ESD has access to all kinds of databases and they will find out eventually. Better to report it upfront and deal with any reduction than face fraud charges later.

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Absolutely. I'm definitely going to report it. Just wanted to understand the rules first.

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Smart approach. Transparency is always the best policy with Washington ESD.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this same question and spent 3 hours on hold before getting disconnected. Their phone system is absolutely horrible. How is anyone supposed to get answers?

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I might have to try that. I can't waste any more time on hold with their broken phone system.

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Just to add another data point: I receive a small pension from the military (I'm a veteran) and it doesn't affect my Washington ESD benefits at all. Military pensions are treated differently than civilian employer pensions.

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That's good to know! My pension is from a regular private employer, so the base period rules would apply to me.

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Thanks for mentioning that. Military and government pensions have different rules than private employer pensions.

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Pro tip: When you file your weekly claim, there's a specific question about pension income. Make sure you report the gross amount, not the net amount after taxes. Washington ESD wants to know the full pension amount before any deductions.

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Good point! I'll make sure to report the gross amount. The last thing I want is to get in trouble for reporting the wrong number.

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Yes, always report gross amounts for any income on your weekly claims. Washington ESD is very specific about that.

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Has anyone here actually had their benefits reduced because of a pension? I'm curious what the actual impact is if it does count against you.

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My neighbor had his benefits reduced by about $85 per week because of his pension from his last employer. The pension was $340/month so they divided that by 4.33 (weeks per month) and subtracted it from his weekly benefit.

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That's actually not too bad. I was worried they'd take dollar-for-dollar.

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The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD will verify all your income sources eventually. They cross-reference with Social Security, IRS, and other databases. So even if you think they won't find out about a pension, they probably will.

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That's another good reason to be upfront about everything. I'd rather report it now than deal with problems later.

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Exactly. The penalties for not reporting income are way worse than any reduction in benefits.

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I wish I had seen this thread before I started my claim. I've been reporting my pension for 6 weeks now and just realized I might not have needed to worry about it since it's from an old employer. Oh well, better safe than sorry.

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You did the right thing by reporting it. Even if it doesn't reduce your benefits, you're required to report all income sources.

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True, and at least I don't have to worry about getting in trouble for not reporting it.

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For what it's worth, I called Washington ESD (after many attempts) and the agent told me that if my pension was from more than 18 months ago, it wouldn't affect my benefits. But I still have to report it every week. The reporting requirement is separate from whether it reduces your benefits.

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That's consistent with what everyone else is saying about the base period rules. Thanks for sharing what the agent told you!

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How long did it take you to get through to an agent? I've been trying for weeks.

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It took me about 2 weeks of trying every day. I finally got through around 8:15 AM on a Tuesday. Seems like early morning is the best time to try.

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Bottom line: Report the pension on your weekly claims no matter what. If it's from your base period, it will reduce your benefits. If it's from outside your base period, it won't reduce your benefits but you still have to report it. When in doubt, report it.

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Perfect summary! That's exactly what I needed to know. I feel much better about filing my weekly claims now.

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This should be pinned at the top of every unemployment forum. Clear, simple, and accurate.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel like I have a much better understanding of how pensions affect unemployment benefits. I'll definitely report my pension but I'm optimistic it won't reduce my benefits since it's from an old employer.

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Glad we could help! Sounds like you're in good shape since your pension is from 5 years ago.

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I went through this exact same situation when I got laid off from Microsoft last year. Since your pension is from 5 years ago, it's almost certainly outside your base period and won't reduce your unemployment benefits. Washington ESD uses the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters to determine your base period, so a pension from 5 years ago definitely wouldn't fall within that timeframe. You'll still need to report it every week on your claims (I report mine as "other income"), but it shouldn't affect your benefit amount at all. The key is just being honest and reporting everything - Washington ESD will verify your income sources anyway, so transparency is always the best approach.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I was getting stressed about it but it sounds like I should be fine. Did you have any issues with Washington ESD questioning the pension or did they just accept it when you reported it as other income? I'm just trying to prepare for any follow-up questions they might have.

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