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Liam O'Connor

Pension deductions from ESD unemployment benefits - how does it work?

I'm starting to receive a monthly pension of $1,850 from my previous employer where I worked for 22 years before they downsized in January. I've been on unemployment since February after trying to find something in the same field (accounting). Someone at my job networking group mentioned that ESD might reduce my weekly benefit amount because of the pension. Is this true? I'm confused because the pension is from the job I lost, not from previous employment. Does anyone know if WA unemployment deducts pension payments and how exactly that works? If my pension payment hits on the 1st of each month, does that just affect my benefits for that week, or does it somehow get spread across all weekly claims? The ESD website information on this is really hard to follow.

Yes, Washington State does generally deduct pension payments from unemployment benefits if the pension is from a "base year employer" (meaning an employer that you worked for during the base year used to establish your claim). Since you mentioned you worked there for 22 years and were recently laid off, your former employer would definitely be a base year employer. Their formula is that they deduct the prorated weekly amount of your pension from your weekly benefit amount. So if your monthly pension is $1,850, they would calculate that as about $427 per week ($1,850 × 12 months ÷ 52 weeks) and reduce your weekly benefit by that amount. Importantly, this reduction applies to ALL weeks, not just the week you receive the pension payment. They prorate it across the month because the pension is considered ongoing income.

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Oh no, that's not what I was hoping to hear. So if my weekly benefit amount is $790, and they deduct $427, I'd only get $363 per week? That's going to make things really tight. Do you know if there are any exceptions to this rule? Also, should I have already reported this to ESD? I just received my first pension payment last week.

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when i got laid off last year they took my pension too. COMPLETELY UNFAIR!!! you work your whole life and then they take it away when you need it most. i had to sell my car because of this stupid rule.

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The pervious person is correct about deductions. But you need to make sure you report it properly on your weekly claim! When you file your weekly claim there will be a question specifically asking if you received or will receive pension payments. Make sure you answer yes and provide the amount. If you don't report it properly, they will eventually find out and hit you with an overpayment notice, which is a HUGE headache!!! Trust me - been there, done that, spent months fixing it. Also, if you havent reported it yet, you should call ESD immediatly to correct it before they catch it. Better to be proactive.

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Thanks for the warning. I haven't been asked about pension on my weekly claims yet (maybe because I just got my first payment), but I'll definitely report it next time. I'm going to try calling them to let them know, but we all know how impossible it is to get through to a real person at ESD. I've been trying for days.

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I've dealt with this EXACT situation. Let me clarify a couple important points: 1) Yes, pensions from base year employers reduce your benefits 2) The reduction applies to ALL weeks, not just when you receive the payment 3) BUT - this is important - if you contributed to the pension yourself, only the employer-contributed portion gets deducted! For example, if you contributed 40% to your pension and your employer contributed 60%, then only 60% of the prorated weekly amount gets deducted from your benefits. You should check your pension statement to see the breakdown. Also, if you're having trouble getting through to ESD to report this, try calling right when they open at 8am. That's when I've had the most success.

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don't they have a minimum benefit amount? i thought even with deductions you still get something like $235 per week minimum??? anyone know?

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No, there's no minimum benefit amount when it comes to pension deductions. Your benefit can be reduced all the way to zero if your pension amount is large enough. You're probably thinking of the minimum weekly benefit amount for new claims, which is currently around $295, but that's before any deductions are applied.

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I went thrugh this in 2023 after getting laid off from Boeing. I recieve a pension from them and also got unemployment. Here's exactly what happened: 1. I reported my pension on my intial application 2. My WBA was reduced by the weekly eqivalent of my pension 3. They reduced EVERY week, not just the week I got paid 4. After 6 months I found a new job making less than before 5. I'm still getting my pension plus my new lower salary One thing to keep in mind: If you get a job that pays less than your previous job, you might qualify for something called "partial unemployment" even while working full-time. Worth looking into as you job search!!

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Thank you for sharing your experience. This is really helpful to know what to expect. I'm definitely keeping my options open with the job search and will look into the partial unemployment if I end up taking something with lower pay. Did ESD automatically calculate your pension deduction or did you have to provide documentation about the pension amount?

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To directly answer your original questions: 1. Yes, Washington does deduct pensions from unemployment benefits when the pension is from a base year employer 2. No, they don't deduct pensions if they're from a completely different employer outside your base year 3. No, it's not just the week you receive the payment - they prorate it across all weeks When you report your pension, ESD will ask for documentation showing the monthly amount and may ask for information about contribution percentages. They'll calculate the reduction and apply it automatically to future payments. One more thing - if your pension amount changes at any point, you need to report that change to ESD right away.

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Thank you for the clear answers! I just looked at my pension paperwork and confirmed I contributed about 35% over the years. I'm going to gather all this documentation and try to get through to ESD this week to make sure everything is handled properly. Really appreciate everyone's help!

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I went through something similar when I got laid off from my state job in 2022. One thing that might help reduce the financial impact - if you haven't already, check if your pension allows for any temporary suspension or deferment options while you're unemployed. Some pension plans (especially government ones) have provisions that let you delay payments for a few months if you're actively job searching. It won't eliminate the deduction issue entirely, but it could give you some breathing room while you find new employment. Also, make sure when you do report the pension to ESD that you emphasize the employee contribution percentage - that 35% you mentioned could save you about $150 per week in deductions. Good luck with the job search!

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That's a really interesting suggestion about pension deferment options! I hadn't thought about that possibility at all. My pension is through a private company plan (not government), but it's definitely worth looking into whether they have any temporary suspension options. Even if they don't, it's good to know that's something to ask about. Thanks for mentioning the employee contribution percentage too - I'll make sure to have all that documentation ready when I call ESD. Every bit of savings on those deductions will help right now.

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