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Freya Christensen

Does job abandonment qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington?

I stopped showing up to my retail job about two weeks ago without officially quitting or giving notice. It was a toxic work environment with a manager who was constantly yelling and making unreasonable demands. I just couldn't take it anymore and stopped going in. Now I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD or if this counts as job abandonment and disqualifies me? Has anyone been in a similar situation? I really need the income while I look for something better.

Job abandonment is generally considered voluntary separation which can disqualify you from unemployment benefits. However, if you can prove the work environment was hostile or unsafe, you might have grounds for good cause separation. You'll need to document everything - dates, incidents, any complaints you made to HR or management.

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I didn't make any formal complaints because I was afraid of retaliation. Do you think that hurts my case?

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It makes it harder but not impossible. Washington ESD will look at the totality of circumstances. Try to gather any evidence you have - text messages, emails, witness statements from coworkers.

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You should still file your claim with Washington ESD. Even if they initially deny it, you can appeal and present your case. Job abandonment doesn't automatically disqualify you if you had good cause.

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This is true. I know someone who won their appeal after job abandonment because they could prove harassment.

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How long does the appeal process usually take? I'm really strapped for cash right now.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Filed for UI and got denied initially, but I appealed with documentation about the hostile work environment. It took about 6 weeks total but I eventually got approved. The key is having specific examples of what made the job intolerable.

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What kind of documentation did you use? I'm worried I don't have enough proof.

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I had screenshots of scheduling changes made last minute, a doctor's note about stress-related symptoms, and statements from two former coworkers who witnessed the manager's behavior.

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job abandonment is tricky territory. washington esd will look at whether you had good cause to leave. toxic work environment might qualify but you need proof

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What counts as proof though? I'm in a similar boat and worried about applying.

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anything that shows the working conditions - emails, texts, medical records if stress affected your health, witness statements

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The system is so messed up. You're basically penalized for leaving a job that's destroying your mental health. I went through something similar and it took months to get benefits approved even with documentation.

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I hear you. It's like they expect you to stay in abusive situations just to qualify for benefits you've already paid into.

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This is exactly how I feel. The job was making me physically sick but I'm worried about being able to pay rent now.

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You mentioned you just stopped showing up - did your employer try to contact you? Sometimes they'll mark it as voluntary resignation instead of job abandonment if they can't reach you for clarification.

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They called twice the first day and sent one text. After that nothing. Should I respond now or would that hurt my case?

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I'd be careful about responding now without advice. Maybe talk to Washington ESD first about how to handle it.

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When you file your initial claim, make sure to select 'quit for good cause' rather than just 'quit' if that's an option. The way you categorize it initially can affect how they review your case.

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Good point. I haven't filed yet because I wasn't sure if I'd even qualify. Should I do it online or over the phone?

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Online is usually faster but if your situation is complicated, phone might be better so you can explain the circumstances.

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The online system asks pretty detailed questions about why you left. You can explain the situation there too.

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Just want to add that even if you get denied initially, don't give up. The appeals process exists for situations exactly like yours where the initial determination might not capture the full picture.

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How do I strengthen my case for an appeal if it comes to that?

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Start documenting everything now - write down specific incidents you remember with dates, gather any communications, and see if former coworkers would be willing to provide statements.

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I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my pending adjudication. Took like 15 minutes to connect me to an agent who was actually helpful. Might be worth trying if you need to discuss your specific job abandonment situation with someone who knows the rules.

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The definition of 'good cause' for quitting includes situations where working conditions are so bad that a reasonable person would quit. Verbal abuse and harassment can definitely qualify, but you need to show you tried to address it first or that addressing it would have been futile.

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What if there was no HR department? It was a small store with just the owner/manager who was the problem.

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That actually helps your case because it shows you had no internal recourse to address the situation.

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been there done that. stopped showing up to my warehouse job because of safety issues they wouldn't fix. got denied first but won my appeal. key is being able to prove the employer knew about the problems

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How did you prove they knew about the problems?

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had emails where i reported stuff and their responses basically ignoring it. also had accident reports that showed the ongoing issues

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Don't let them intimidate you into not filing. Even if you're not sure you qualify, file the claim and let Washington ESD make the determination. You've paid into the system and deserve a fair review of your situation.

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You're right. I think I've been psyching myself out. I'll file tomorrow and see what happens.

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Good luck! Remember to be completely honest about the circumstances and why you felt you had no choice but to leave.

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Just a heads up - if you do get approved, they might date your benefits back to when you actually left the job, not when you filed. So don't delay filing even if you're unsure about qualification.

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That's good to know. I was worried about the timing of everything.

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Yeah the retroactive pay can be significant. I got like 6 weeks of back pay when my appeal was approved.

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Same here. Lost count of how many times I got hung up on after waiting 2+ hours.

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Make sure you're prepared for the possibility that your former employer might contest your claim. They'll get notified and can provide their version of events, especially if they classified it as job abandonment on their end.

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What happens if they contest it? Does it make it harder to get approved?

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It means Washington ESD will review both sides and make a determination. Having documentation becomes even more important in contested cases.

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Personal experience here - I abandoned my restaurant job during peak COVID because of unsafe conditions. Initially denied but eventually approved after appeal. The process was stressful but worth fighting for if you truly had good cause.

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How long did the whole process take from filing to final approval?

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About 8 weeks total including the appeal. The waiting was the hardest part but I did eventually get all the back pay.

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Quick tip - when you file, be very specific about the working conditions that made the job intolerable. General statements like 'toxic environment' aren't as strong as specific examples of harassment, unsafe conditions, or policy violations.

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That makes sense. I need to sit down and write out all the specific incidents I can remember.

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Yes! Dates, witnesses present, exactly what was said or done. The more detailed the better.

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Bottom line - job abandonment doesn't automatically disqualify you if you had good cause. File your claim, be honest about the circumstances, and don't be afraid to appeal if you get denied initially. You might be surprised by the outcome.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. I feel much more confident about filing now. Really appreciate the support.

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Good for you! Keep us posted on how it goes. Your situation might help others in similar circumstances.

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I went through something similar about 6 months ago. The key thing to remember is that Washington state recognizes "constructive dismissal" - basically when working conditions are so bad that any reasonable person would have to quit. Mental health impacts from a hostile work environment absolutely count as good cause. When you file your claim, focus on specific incidents and how they affected your ability to do your job safely. Even without formal HR complaints, you can still build a strong case. Document everything you can remember now - dates, what was said, how it made you feel, any physical symptoms like anxiety or insomnia. I ended up getting approved after initially being denied, and the back pay helped a lot during my job search.

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This is really helpful to know about constructive dismissal - I hadn't heard that term before. The physical symptoms part resonates with me too. I was having trouble sleeping and getting anxious just thinking about going to work. Did you have any medical documentation of the stress symptoms, or was your own testimony enough during the appeal process?

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This gives me so much hope! I've been documenting everything I can remember from the past few weeks - the constant yelling, unreasonable schedule changes with no notice, and how I was getting panic attacks before my shifts. I didn't see a doctor about it though. Do you think personal documentation and testimony about the physical symptoms would be enough, or should I try to get some kind of medical evaluation now to support my case?

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Omar Zaki

I had a similar experience with panic attacks before shifts! I didn't get medical documentation at the time either, but I did end up seeing my doctor a few weeks after I left because the stress symptoms continued. The doctor was able to note in my records that the symptoms were consistent with workplace stress, even though I sought treatment after leaving. If you're still experiencing anxiety or other symptoms, it might be worth getting evaluated now - it can still support your case even if it's after the fact. The key is being able to connect the symptoms to the work environment.

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