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Does disability pay more than Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm currently on unemployment getting $844 a week from Washington ESD but I've been dealing with some serious back issues that might qualify me for disability. My doctor says I should consider applying but I'm wondering if it's even worth it financially. Does anyone know if disability benefits pay more than regular UI? I don't want to mess up my current unemployment claim if disability pays less. Has anyone been in this situation before?

Disability and unemployment are completely different programs with different eligibility requirements. You generally can't collect both at the same time since unemployment requires you to be able and available for work, while disability means you can't work.

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Oh I didn't realize they were mutually exclusive. So I'd have to choose one or the other?

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Exactly. If you're approved for disability, you'd have to stop claiming unemployment benefits through Washington ESD.

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Disability and unemployment are completely different programs with different eligibility requirements. You generally can't collect both at the same time because UI requires you to be able and available for work, while disability means you can't work. The payment amounts vary a lot depending on your work history and which disability program you qualify for.

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Oh I didn't realize they were mutually exclusive. So if I apply for disability I'd have to stop my unemployment claim?

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Yes, exactly. Washington ESD requires you to certify each week that you're able to work and actively seeking employment. If you're claiming disability, you're saying you can't work - those are contradictory positions.

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disability takes FOREVER to get approved though, like months or even years. unemployment is immediate if you qualify

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This is so true. My sister applied for disability in 2022 and didn't get approved until late 2024. She had to survive on savings the whole time.

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Wow that's terrifying. I can't go that long without income.

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I went through this exact situation last year. My unemployment was paying about $650/week but I was having seizures that made it impossible to work. Applied for SSDI and had to stop my UI claims immediately. The disability process took 8 months and I got approved for $1,200/month which is way less than unemployment was paying me.

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Wow that's a huge difference! $1,200 a month vs what I'm getting now would be really tough financially.

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That's why you need to be really sure about your medical situation before making the switch. Once you stop UI for disability, you can't just go back if you get denied.

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The thing about disability is it's based on your lifetime earnings, not your recent wages like unemployment. So if you had lower paying jobs earlier in your career, your disability benefit might be significantly less than your current UI amount. You can estimate your potential SSDI benefit on the Social Security website.

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I'll check that out. I did have some lower paying jobs in my twenties so that might affect it.

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Also keep in mind there's usually a 5-month waiting period for SSDI benefits to start, so you'd have no income during that time unless you have other resources.

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The amount depends on your work history and earnings. Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) is based on your lifetime earnings, while Supplemental Security Income (SSI) has set maximum amounts. Washington ESD unemployment is based on your recent wages. You'd need to check with Social Security to see what your potential disability payment would be.

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Is there a way to estimate what I might get before applying? I don't want to give up my unemployment benefits without knowing.

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Yes, you can create an account on ssa.gov and use their benefit estimator tool. It'll give you an idea of what your SSDI payment might be.

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Just remember that if you're denied (which happens a lot on the first application), you'll have no income while you appeal. Very risky.

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Have you tried calling Washington ESD to ask about this? I was having trouble getting through to them about my claim status until I found this service called Claimyr that helps you reach agents. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might be worth asking them directly about how disability affects your UI eligibility.

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I haven't been able to get through to Washington ESD on the phone at all. The lines are always busy. I'll check out that Claimyr thing, thanks!

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Claimyr actually worked for me too when I needed to talk to someone about my adjudication. Much easier than trying to call repeatedly.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing! why can't you get both if you paid into both programs?? seems like they should stack if you qualify for both

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Because the fundamental requirements contradict each other. UI is temporary support while you look for new work. Disability is for people who can't work at all. You can't be both able to work and unable to work simultaneously.

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i guess that makes sense when you put it that way but it still sucks for people caught in between

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One thing to consider is that disability benefits are permanent (as long as you remain disabled) while UI has a maximum duration. In Washington state, regular UI maxes out at 26 weeks. So even if disability pays less monthly, it might be better long-term if you truly can't work.

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That's a good point. I'm already 12 weeks into my UI claim so I only have 14 weeks left anyway.

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Plus if you're on SSDI for 24 months you become eligible for Medicare, which can be huge if you have ongoing medical issues.

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I'd strongly recommend talking to a disability attorney before making any decisions. Most offer free consultations and can help you understand if you have a strong case. The approval rates for disability are pretty low on first applications, so you want to make sure you're in a good position before giving up your unemployment.

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How do I find a good disability attorney? Are there specific ones that handle these cases?

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Yes, look for attorneys who specialize in Social Security disability law. They usually work on contingency so you don't pay unless you win. Your state bar association can provide referrals.

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Just want to add that there are different types of disability benefits. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is based on your work history, but SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is need-based with much lower payments. Make sure you understand which one you might qualify for.

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What's the difference in payment amounts between SSDI and SSI?

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SSDI can range from a few hundred to over $3,000 per month depending on your earnings history. SSI is capped at about $914 per month in 2025 and has strict asset limits.

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Whatever you decide, document everything about your medical condition. Keep all doctor visits, test results, treatment records, etc. If you do apply for disability, having thorough medical documentation is crucial for approval.

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I've been pretty good about keeping my medical records. My back issues are well documented with MRIs and everything.

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That's great! Having objective medical evidence like MRIs really helps disability cases.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to ask about my options when my back problems got worse. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me actually reach a human at Washington ESD. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. The agent I spoke with explained that I'd need to stop my UI claim if I went the disability route.

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That's exactly what I need - someone who can explain the rules clearly. Did they charge you a lot for that service?

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They focus on getting you connected rather than the cost. Worth it when you need real answers from Washington ESD about something this important.

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honestly the whole system is messed up. you either have to pretend youre healthy enough to work for unemployment or pretend youre too sick to work for disability. what if youre somewhere in between?

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That's actually a real issue. There are people who can do some work but not full-time, and the system doesn't handle that well.

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There are programs for partial disability but they're even more complicated to navigate.

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My understanding is that disability payments are generally lower than unemployment, especially if you were making decent money before. But disability can last much longer - unemployment in Washington maxes out at 26 weeks usually.

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Good point about the duration. I only have about 12 weeks of unemployment benefits left.

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yeah but what good is longer duration if you're getting way less money per month?

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True, but if you're genuinely unable to work, unemployment will run out anyway and then you'll have nothing.

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Be very careful about timing this. If you stop your unemployment claim to apply for disability and get denied, you might not be able to restart your UI benefits. The rules are strict about continuous eligibility.

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Oh no, I hadn't thought about that. So I could end up with nothing?

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This is why it's crucial to speak with someone at Washington ESD before making any decisions. They can explain your specific situation.

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tbh the disability system is broken too, my cousin has been waiting 2 years for an appeal and still no money. at least with unemployment you get paid while you're looking for work

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The appeals process can definitely take forever. That's why it's so important to have good medical documentation and legal help from the start.

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Two years?! That's insane. How do people survive that long without income?

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Have you looked into whether your employer offers short-term or long-term disability insurance? If you were laid off you might not have access to it anymore, but it's worth checking since those benefits can be higher than government programs.

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I was laid off so I don't think I have access to employer benefits anymore. I should probably check my COBRA paperwork though.

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Definitely check! Sometimes disability insurance continues for a period after termination, especially if the condition started while you were employed.

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If you do decide to pursue disability, you might want to contact Washington ESD first to ask about how it affects your current claim. I used claimyr.com recently to get through to an agent about a different issue and they were really helpful explaining the rules.

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Several people have mentioned Claimyr now. I'm definitely going to try that to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my options.

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It's worth it just to get official guidance directly from Washington ESD rather than guessing about the rules.

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One more thing - if your back condition is something that might improve with treatment, you might want to exhaust your UI benefits first while getting medical care. That way you're not locked into the disability system if you could potentially return to work.

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That's actually really good advice. My doctor did say there's a chance physical therapy could help, but it's going to take time to see if it works.

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Exactly. UI gives you that flexibility to see if your condition improves, while disability assumes it's permanent. Much harder to come back from disability if you get better.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I think I'm going to try to get through to Washington ESD using that Claimyr service to ask about my specific situation, and also schedule a consultation with a disability attorney to understand my options better. I'll probably try to use up my remaining UI weeks while I figure this out since it sounds like disability is a much longer process anyway.

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That sounds like a smart approach. Getting official guidance from both Washington ESD and a disability attorney will help you make the best decision for your situation.

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Good luck! Hope your back improves and you don't need to go the disability route at all.

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Thanks! I'm hoping the physical therapy works out but it's good to know my options either way.

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Another thing to consider - if you're collecting unemployment, you're supposed to be actively looking for work. If your medical condition is preventing you from doing that job search requirement, Washington ESD might question your continued eligibility anyway.

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I've been struggling with the job search logs lately because some days I can barely get out of bed. This is getting complicated.

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You might want to talk to a disability lawyer for a free consultation. They usually don't charge unless you win your case.

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whatever you do dont just stop filing your weekly claims without talking to someone first. i did that once thinking i was being honest about not being able to work and it screwed up my whole claim

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What happened when you tried to restart it?

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had to go through the whole appeals process, took months to sort out. was a nightmare

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From what I've seen, most people get less money on disability than they were getting from unemployment, but it's more stable long-term. The average SSDI payment is around $1,500/month nationally, but it varies a lot based on your work history.

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That would be way less than my current unemployment. I'm getting close to $3,000/month right now.

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Yeah, that's a significant drop. You'd really need to weigh whether you can realistically continue working vs. the financial hit.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about a similar question last month and spent literally 4 hours on hold across multiple days. Finally found out about this Claimyr thing that gets you through to an actual person. Saved me so much time and frustration.

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How quickly were you able to get through using that service?

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Same day I used it. They handle all the waiting and calling back for you. Made such a difference when I needed real answers.

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Just want to add that if you do apply for disability, keep detailed records of your medical treatments and how your condition affects your daily activities. The more documentation you have, the better your chances of approval.

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Good advice. I've been pretty bad about keeping track of all my doctor visits and PT appointments.

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Start now! Even if you decide not to apply for disability, having that documentation could help if Washington ESD questions your ability to work.

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The job search requirement is what got me. I was on unemployment but my condition made it impossible to actually interview or work full-time. Felt like I was stuck between two systems that didn't account for my reality.

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That's exactly how I feel right now. Did you end up switching to disability?

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Still in the application process. It's been 8 months so far with no decision. Living on savings and help from family.

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This is why the system needs reform. People shouldn't have to choose between being honest about their limitations and having income.

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Have you looked into vocational rehabilitation services? Sometimes they can help you find work that accommodates your disability while you're still on unemployment.

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I haven't heard of that. Is that through Washington ESD or a different agency?

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It's through the Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) Division of Vocational Rehabilitation. They work with people who have disabilities to find suitable employment.

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Whatever you decide, don't let your current unemployment claim lapse while you're figuring this out. Keep filing your weekly claims until you know for sure what you're doing.

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Definitely. I'm going to keep filing while I research my options.

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Smart move. Better to have some income while you sort this out than to have nothing at all.

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I used Claimyr last week when I had questions about medical leave affecting my unemployment claim. The Washington ESD agent they connected me with was really knowledgeable about the intersection between medical issues and UI eligibility. Worth using if you need specific guidance about your situation.

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Did they explain options you didn't know about?

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Yes, they mentioned some accommodations I could request for the job search requirement based on my medical condition. Stuff I never would have known to ask about.

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The waiting period for disability approval is brutal, but if you're genuinely unable to work, unemployment will end eventually anyway. At least with disability, if you're approved, you get back pay from when you first applied.

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Back pay would help, but surviving those months without income seems impossible.

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It is really hard. Some people apply for both initially and then drop the unemployment when disability gets approved, but you have to be careful about the eligibility requirements.

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Bottom line - this is too important a decision to make based on forum advice. You need to talk to professionals who can look at your specific medical condition, work history, and financial situation.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to start by calling Washington ESD to understand my options better.

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If you have trouble getting through to them, remember that Claimyr option I mentioned earlier. Sometimes you need that extra help to reach the right person.

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Thanks everyone for all the insights. This has given me a lot to think about and research. I'll definitely talk to professionals before making any changes to my current unemployment claim.

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Good luck with whatever you decide! Hope you find a path that works for your situation.

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Keep us updated on what you learn. This kind of information helps others in similar situations.

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