Company denying Washington ESD unemployment claim - why would they fight it?
I was laid off from my job three weeks ago due to budget cuts, but now my former employer is contesting my unemployment claim with Washington ESD. I got a notice that they're saying I was terminated for misconduct, which is completely false. I was never written up or disciplined - they literally told me it was just budget cuts affecting multiple positions. Why would a company lie about this? What happens now with my claim? I'm really stressed because I need these benefits to pay rent.
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A Man D Mortal
Companies contest unemployment claims to keep their unemployment tax rates lower. Every approved claim against them increases what they pay into the system. It's frustrating but very common, especially with larger employers who have HR departments that automatically contest everything.
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Zadie Patel
•That's so messed up. So they're willing to lie just to save money on taxes? What can I do about it?
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A Man D Mortal
•You'll need to respond to Washington ESD with your side of the story. Gather any documentation you have - emails about the layoff, your termination letter, anything that shows it was budget-related.
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Declan Ramirez
same thing happened to me last year! my company said i quit when i was actually fired. took forever to get it resolved through washington esd
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Zadie Patel
•How long did it take? My claim is already in adjudication and now this...
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Declan Ramirez
•like 2 months total but i eventually got all my back pay. you just gotta keep fighting it
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Emma Morales
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Zadie Patel
•Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days and can never get through.
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Emma Morales
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Katherine Hunter
•How much does something like that cost?
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Emma Morales
•Worth it when you consider how much you lose by not getting through to resolve issues like this. The peace of mind alone was huge for me.
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Lucas Parker
The Washington ESD adjudication process for contested claims usually takes 3-4 weeks. You should receive a questionnaire asking for your version of events. Be very detailed and factual. If you have any witnesses to the layoff conversation or emails mentioning budget cuts, include that information. The adjudicator will review both sides and make a determination.
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Zadie Patel
•I do have the email from HR about the layoffs affecting multiple departments. Should I submit that?
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Lucas Parker
•Absolutely! That's exactly the kind of documentation that will help your case. Submit anything that contradicts their misconduct claim.
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Donna Cline
This is exactly why the unemployment system is broken!!! Companies can just LIE and tie up your benefits for weeks while you struggle to pay bills. Meanwhile their lawyers are getting paid to fight every single claim. It's disgusting.
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Harper Collins
•I hear you but getting angry won't help OP's situation right now
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Donna Cline
•Someone needs to be angry about this! People are losing their homes while companies play games with the system.
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Kelsey Hawkins
wait so companies actually benefit from denying unemployment claims? i thought unemployment was paid by the government
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A Man D Mortal
•The government administers it but companies pay unemployment taxes based on their claim history. More claims = higher taxes for them.
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Kelsey Hawkins
•ohh that makes sense why they'd fight it then. still sucks for people who actually deserve benefits
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Dylan Fisher
I work in HR and I'll be honest - some companies have policies to contest every single unemployment claim regardless of circumstances. It's terrible but it happens. The good news is that if you were truly laid off for budget reasons and have documentation, Washington ESD will usually side with you.
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Zadie Patel
•Thank you for being honest about that. It helps to know what I'm dealing with.
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Edwards Hugo
•That's really messed up that companies do that automatically
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Dylan Fisher
•I agree it's wrong. I try to push back when I can but sometimes it's out of my hands.
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Gianna Scott
Something similar happened to my brother except his company waited until he'd been getting benefits for like 6 weeks then suddenly contested it. Had to pay everything back while they investigated. Nightmare.
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Zadie Patel
•Oh god that's even worse! Did he eventually get it resolved?
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Gianna Scott
•Yeah but it took months and he had to get a lawyer involved. Really stressful time for his family.
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Alfredo Lugo
The key thing is to respond quickly to any Washington ESD requests for information. Don't let deadlines pass because that can hurt your case even if you're in the right. Also keep detailed records of everything - dates, times, who you talked to, what was said.
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Zadie Patel
•Good advice. I've been keeping notes since this started but I should be more organized about it.
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Alfredo Lugo
•A simple notebook or phone notes work fine. Just make sure you can reference specific conversations and dates if needed.
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Sydney Torres
If Washington ESD rules against you initially, don't give up! You can appeal and request a hearing. Sometimes the appeal process is more thorough than the initial adjudication.
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Zadie Patel
•How does the hearing process work? Is it like going to court?
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Sydney Torres
•It's less formal than court but you and your employer both present your cases to an administrative law judge. You can have witnesses and submit evidence.
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
•You can also represent yourself - you don't need a lawyer for the hearing although some people do hire one
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Caleb Bell
This whole situation is why I always document everything at work now. Screenshots of emails, written summaries of meetings, anything that might be relevant later. You never know when your employer might try to rewrite history.
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Zadie Patel
•I wish I had thought of that. I do have some stuff saved but not everything.
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Danielle Campbell
•it's never too late to start! even if you're already laid off, document everything about the unemployment process too
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Rhett Bowman
Had a friend who went through this with a big retail chain. They contested every unemployment claim as a matter of policy. She had to get her former supervisor to write a letter confirming she was laid off, not fired for misconduct. That finally resolved it.
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Zadie Patel
•That's a great idea. My old supervisor might be willing to help since she's the one who told me about the budget cuts.
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Rhett Bowman
•Definitely worth asking! Sometimes the direct supervisor has more integrity than the corporate HR department.
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Abigail Patel
When I had to deal with a contested claim, I found that calling Washington ESD early in the morning gave me the best chance of getting through. But honestly, after spending hours on hold multiple times, I ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Saved me so much time and frustration.
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Zadie Patel
•I've been calling at 8am when they open but still can't get through. Maybe I should check out that service.
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Daniel White
•I used Claimyr too when my claim got stuck. Really straightforward and they got me connected to someone who could actually help with my specific issue.
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Nolan Carter
Just want to say hang in there OP. I know this is stressful but most of these contested claims get resolved in favor of the worker when there's clear documentation of a layoff. Companies bank on people giving up or not fighting back.
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Zadie Patel
•Thank you for the encouragement. This whole thing has been overwhelming but everyone's advice is really helpful.
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Natalia Stone
•We're all rooting for you! The system sucks but you've got good documentation on your side.
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Tasia Synder
One more thing - make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while this is being adjudicated. If you win the appeal, you'll get back pay for all the weeks you filed. If you don't file, you lose those weeks even if you win.
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Zadie Patel
•Yes I'm still filing every week. Washington ESD told me to keep doing that even though I'm not getting paid yet.
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Tasia Synder
•Perfect! A lot of people stop filing thinking there's no point, but that's a costly mistake.
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Selena Bautista
Companies also contest claims because they know most people won't fight back due to time, stress, or not knowing the process. Don't let them count on your giving up. You have rights and documentation on your side.
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Zadie Patel
•That makes me even more determined to fight this. I'm not going to let them get away with lying.
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