Washington ESD unemployment - what if your employer lies to unemployment office?
My former manager is telling Washington ESD that I was fired for attendance issues but that's completely false. I was actually laid off due to budget cuts along with 3 other people in my department. Now my unemployment claim is in adjudication and I'm worried they'll deny my benefits based on his lies. Has anyone dealt with employer dishonesty during the Washington ESD investigation process? What documentation should I gather to prove my case?
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Javier Morales
This is more common than you'd think unfortunately. Washington ESD will investigate both sides of the story during adjudication. You need to gather any documentation you have - layoff notices, emails about budget cuts, witness statements from coworkers who were also laid off. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct, not on you to prove innocence.
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Olivia Clark
•I do have an email from HR about the layoffs affecting multiple departments. Would that be enough evidence?
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Javier Morales
•That HR email is excellent evidence! Make sure to submit it through your SecureAccess Washington account or bring it to any scheduled hearing.
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Natasha Petrov
Same thing happened to me last year. My old boss claimed I quit when I was actually terminated. The adjudication process took forever because I couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my side.
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Olivia Clark
•How did you finally resolve it? I'm already 3 weeks into adjudication with no word.
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Natasha Petrov
•I ended up using a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual Washington ESD agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Finally got to speak to someone who could review my documentation.
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Olivia Clark
•Never heard of that but I'm desperate at this point. The phone lines are impossible.
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Connor O'Brien
Document EVERYTHING right now while it's fresh in your memory. Write down exact dates, times, who said what during your termination. If you have any text messages or emails from that time period, screenshot them. Washington ESD adjudicators need specific details to make their determination.
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Olivia Clark
•Good point about the timeline. I should write down exactly what my manager said when they let me go.
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Connor O'Brien
•Yes! And if any of your laid-off coworkers would be willing to provide statements, that could be very helpful too.
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Amina Diallo
This is why I hate the unemployment system. Employers can just lie and put honest people through hell. It's not fair that we have to prove we're telling the truth while they can make up whatever story they want.
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GamerGirl99
•I get the frustration but Washington ESD does investigate both sides. They don't just take the employer's word for it.
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Amina Diallo
•Maybe in theory but in practice it feels like employers have all the power in these situations.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
You might want to contact the other people who were laid off with you. If they're also filing for unemployment and the employer is giving different stories, that could really help your case. Consistency matters a lot in these adjudications.
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Olivia Clark
•That's a great idea. I'm still in touch with two of them. I should ask if they're having similar issues.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•Definitely do that. If the employer is claiming you were fired for attendance but telling Washington ESD the others were laid off, that inconsistency will work in your favor.
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Isabella Costa
Been there. My advice is to submit a written statement through your online account explaining exactly what happened with as much detail as possible. Include dates, names, circumstances. Don't wait for them to schedule a phone interview - be proactive.
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Olivia Clark
•I didn't know I could submit a written statement! Where exactly do I find that option in the SAW portal?
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Isabella Costa
•Look under the 'Adjudication' section in your claim details. There should be an option to upload documents or provide additional information.
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Natasha Petrov
Quick update on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I used them again recently for a different issue and it's still working great. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.
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Malik Jenkins
•How much does that service cost though? I'm already struggling financially while waiting for this to resolve.
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Natasha Petrov
•It's definitely worth it compared to the stress and time you'll save. Much cheaper than missing more bill payments while this drags on.
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Freya Andersen
I work in HR and unfortunately see this happen sometimes. The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD investigators are trained to spot inconsistencies in employer claims. If your manager's story doesn't add up or conflicts with your documentation, they'll catch it.
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Olivia Clark
•That's reassuring to hear from someone on the inside. Do you know roughly how long these investigations typically take?
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Freya Andersen
•It varies a lot but typically 3-6 weeks depending on complexity and how quickly both parties respond to requests for information.
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Eduardo Silva
Whatever you do, don't let them intimidate you into giving up. Some employers count on people just walking away rather than fighting the claim. You have rights and Washington ESD will investigate fairly if you provide the evidence.
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Olivia Clark
•Thanks for the encouragement. This whole process is really stressful but I need these benefits.
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Eduardo Silva
•Completely understandable. Just remember that the truth usually comes out in the end with these adjudications.
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Leila Haddad
My cousin went through this exact same situation last year with a vindictive manager. She ended up getting approved after providing email evidence that contradicted what the employer claimed. The adjudicator could see right through the lies.
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Olivia Clark
•How long did her case take to resolve? I'm going on week 4 now.
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Leila Haddad
•I think it took about 6 weeks total but she got backpay for the whole period once it was approved.
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Emma Johnson
Check if your company has an employee handbook or policy manual that outlines their termination procedures. If they didn't follow their own policies for firing someone, that could help your case too.
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Olivia Clark
•Good thinking. They definitely didn't give me any written warnings or follow progressive discipline like the handbook requires.
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Emma Johnson
•Exactly! That kind of procedural evidence can be very powerful in unemployment hearings.
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Ravi Patel
This is exactly why I always keep copies of important work emails and documents. You never know when you might need them later. Hope your case gets resolved quickly!
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Olivia Clark
•Lesson learned for sure. I'm lucky I still had access to some emails right after I was let go.
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Astrid Bergström
Had a similar situation years ago. The key is staying organized and persistent. Make copies of everything, keep detailed notes of all your interactions with Washington ESD, and don't give up. The system works if you work with it properly.
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Olivia Clark
•Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard when money is getting tight.
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Astrid Bergström
•I totally get it. The financial stress makes everything worse. But hang in there - once you get approved you'll get backpay for all the weeks you've been waiting.
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PixelPrincess
You should also consider filing a complaint with the state labor board if your employer is deliberately providing false information. That's a serious issue beyond just your unemployment claim.
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Olivia Clark
•I hadn't thought of that. Would that help my current case or is it a separate thing?
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PixelPrincess
•It's separate but it could establish a pattern if other employees have had similar issues with this manager.
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Omar Farouk
Try calling Washington ESD early in the morning right when they open. I've had better luck getting through around 8 AM rather than later in the day when the lines are jammed.
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Olivia Clark
•I've tried that but still can't get through. The busy signal is constant no matter when I call.
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Chloe Martin
•That's when something like Claimyr really comes in handy. I used it a few months ago and finally talked to someone after weeks of busy signals. Made all the difference in getting my issue resolved.
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Diego Fernández
Document the impact this delay is having on you too - bills you can't pay, stress, etc. Sometimes that human element helps adjudicators understand the urgency of resolving false claims quickly.
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Olivia Clark
•That's a good point. This whole ordeal has been affecting my mental health and finances pretty severely.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
Don't forget that you have the right to request a hearing if the initial adjudication doesn't go your way. Sometimes having a live conversation with a hearing officer can make a big difference, especially when you have strong evidence like that HR email.
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Olivia Clark
•Good to know that's an option. Hopefully it won't come to that but I'm prepared to fight if necessary.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•That's the right attitude. Most of these cases get resolved properly once all the facts come out.
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Sean Fitzgerald
Keep checking your SAW account daily for any requests for additional information. Sometimes they ask for more documentation and you only have a limited time to respond. Don't miss those deadlines!
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Olivia Clark
•I've been checking it obsessively actually. Still just shows 'adjudication in progress' with no updates.
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Sean Fitzgerald
•That's normal. The status usually doesn't change until they make a final determination. The waiting is the hardest part.
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Zara Khan
Just want to say hang in there. I know this process is incredibly stressful but you're doing everything right by gathering evidence and fighting back against false claims. The truth will come out.
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Olivia Clark
•Thanks everyone for all the advice and support. This thread has been really helpful and made me feel less alone in dealing with this mess.
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