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Washington ESD unemployment - what if your employer lies to unemployment office?

My former manager is telling Washington ESD that I was fired for attendance issues but that's completely false. I was actually laid off due to budget cuts along with 3 other people in my department. Now my unemployment claim is in adjudication and I'm worried they'll deny my benefits based on his lies. Has anyone dealt with employer dishonesty during the Washington ESD investigation process? What documentation should I gather to prove my case?

This is more common than you'd think unfortunately. Washington ESD will investigate both sides of the story during adjudication. You need to gather any documentation you have - layoff notices, emails about budget cuts, witness statements from coworkers who were also laid off. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct, not on you to prove innocence.

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I do have an email from HR about the layoffs affecting multiple departments. Would that be enough evidence?

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That HR email is excellent evidence! Make sure to submit it through your SecureAccess Washington account or bring it to any scheduled hearing.

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Same thing happened to me last year. My old boss claimed I quit when I was actually terminated. The adjudication process took forever because I couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to explain my side.

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How did you finally resolve it? I'm already 3 weeks into adjudication with no word.

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I ended up using a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual Washington ESD agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Finally got to speak to someone who could review my documentation.

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Never heard of that but I'm desperate at this point. The phone lines are impossible.

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Document EVERYTHING right now while it's fresh in your memory. Write down exact dates, times, who said what during your termination. If you have any text messages or emails from that time period, screenshot them. Washington ESD adjudicators need specific details to make their determination.

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Good point about the timeline. I should write down exactly what my manager said when they let me go.

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Yes! And if any of your laid-off coworkers would be willing to provide statements, that could be very helpful too.

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This is why I hate the unemployment system. Employers can just lie and put honest people through hell. It's not fair that we have to prove we're telling the truth while they can make up whatever story they want.

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I get the frustration but Washington ESD does investigate both sides. They don't just take the employer's word for it.

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Maybe in theory but in practice it feels like employers have all the power in these situations.

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You might want to contact the other people who were laid off with you. If they're also filing for unemployment and the employer is giving different stories, that could really help your case. Consistency matters a lot in these adjudications.

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That's a great idea. I'm still in touch with two of them. I should ask if they're having similar issues.

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Definitely do that. If the employer is claiming you were fired for attendance but telling Washington ESD the others were laid off, that inconsistency will work in your favor.

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Been there. My advice is to submit a written statement through your online account explaining exactly what happened with as much detail as possible. Include dates, names, circumstances. Don't wait for them to schedule a phone interview - be proactive.

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I didn't know I could submit a written statement! Where exactly do I find that option in the SAW portal?

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Look under the 'Adjudication' section in your claim details. There should be an option to upload documents or provide additional information.

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Quick update on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I used them again recently for a different issue and it's still working great. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.

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How much does that service cost though? I'm already struggling financially while waiting for this to resolve.

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It's definitely worth it compared to the stress and time you'll save. Much cheaper than missing more bill payments while this drags on.

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I work in HR and unfortunately see this happen sometimes. The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD investigators are trained to spot inconsistencies in employer claims. If your manager's story doesn't add up or conflicts with your documentation, they'll catch it.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone on the inside. Do you know roughly how long these investigations typically take?

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It varies a lot but typically 3-6 weeks depending on complexity and how quickly both parties respond to requests for information.

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Whatever you do, don't let them intimidate you into giving up. Some employers count on people just walking away rather than fighting the claim. You have rights and Washington ESD will investigate fairly if you provide the evidence.

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Thanks for the encouragement. This whole process is really stressful but I need these benefits.

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Completely understandable. Just remember that the truth usually comes out in the end with these adjudications.

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My cousin went through this exact same situation last year with a vindictive manager. She ended up getting approved after providing email evidence that contradicted what the employer claimed. The adjudicator could see right through the lies.

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How long did her case take to resolve? I'm going on week 4 now.

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I think it took about 6 weeks total but she got backpay for the whole period once it was approved.

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Check if your company has an employee handbook or policy manual that outlines their termination procedures. If they didn't follow their own policies for firing someone, that could help your case too.

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Good thinking. They definitely didn't give me any written warnings or follow progressive discipline like the handbook requires.

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Exactly! That kind of procedural evidence can be very powerful in unemployment hearings.

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This is exactly why I always keep copies of important work emails and documents. You never know when you might need them later. Hope your case gets resolved quickly!

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Lesson learned for sure. I'm lucky I still had access to some emails right after I was let go.

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Had a similar situation years ago. The key is staying organized and persistent. Make copies of everything, keep detailed notes of all your interactions with Washington ESD, and don't give up. The system works if you work with it properly.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard when money is getting tight.

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I totally get it. The financial stress makes everything worse. But hang in there - once you get approved you'll get backpay for all the weeks you've been waiting.

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You should also consider filing a complaint with the state labor board if your employer is deliberately providing false information. That's a serious issue beyond just your unemployment claim.

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I hadn't thought of that. Would that help my current case or is it a separate thing?

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It's separate but it could establish a pattern if other employees have had similar issues with this manager.

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Try calling Washington ESD early in the morning right when they open. I've had better luck getting through around 8 AM rather than later in the day when the lines are jammed.

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I've tried that but still can't get through. The busy signal is constant no matter when I call.

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That's when something like Claimyr really comes in handy. I used it a few months ago and finally talked to someone after weeks of busy signals. Made all the difference in getting my issue resolved.

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Document the impact this delay is having on you too - bills you can't pay, stress, etc. Sometimes that human element helps adjudicators understand the urgency of resolving false claims quickly.

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That's a good point. This whole ordeal has been affecting my mental health and finances pretty severely.

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Don't forget that you have the right to request a hearing if the initial adjudication doesn't go your way. Sometimes having a live conversation with a hearing officer can make a big difference, especially when you have strong evidence like that HR email.

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Good to know that's an option. Hopefully it won't come to that but I'm prepared to fight if necessary.

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That's the right attitude. Most of these cases get resolved properly once all the facts come out.

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Keep checking your SAW account daily for any requests for additional information. Sometimes they ask for more documentation and you only have a limited time to respond. Don't miss those deadlines!

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I've been checking it obsessively actually. Still just shows 'adjudication in progress' with no updates.

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That's normal. The status usually doesn't change until they make a final determination. The waiting is the hardest part.

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Just want to say hang in there. I know this process is incredibly stressful but you're doing everything right by gathering evidence and fighting back against false claims. The truth will come out.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and support. This thread has been really helpful and made me feel less alone in dealing with this mess.

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