What happens if employer lies to NYS Department of Labor unemployment office - worried about my claim
I got fired from my job last month and filed for unemployment benefits right away. Everything seemed fine until last week when I got a letter saying my former employer is disputing my claim. They're claiming I was terminated for misconduct, but that's completely false! I was laid off due to budget cuts along with 3 other people in my department. My supervisor even told me it wasn't performance related when they let me go. Now I'm terrified that NYS Department of Labor will believe their lies and deny my benefits. Has anyone dealt with an employer making false statements to the unemployment office? What proof do I need to fight this? I really need these benefits to pay my rent.
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Ella Thompson
Don't panic - employers lie to unemployment offices more often than you'd think, but NYS Department of Labor investigates these disputes thoroughly. You'll need to gather any documentation you have from your termination - emails about layoffs, witness contact info for coworkers who were also let go, your final conversation with your supervisor. The burden of proof is actually on your employer to demonstrate misconduct, not on you to prove innocence. Make sure you respond to any requests for information from NYS Department of Labor promptly and be completely honest about what happened.
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Matthew Sanchez
•Thank you! I do have an email from HR about the layoffs affecting multiple departments. Should I send that to NYS Department of Labor right away or wait for them to ask for it?
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JacksonHarris
Same thing happened to me 2 years ago. My old boss claimed I was fired for attendance issues when I was actually terminated because they lost a major contract. I gathered my timesheets showing I was never late, got statements from two coworkers who witnessed the real reason, and submitted everything during the adjudication process. NYS Department of Labor ruled in my favor after about 3 weeks. Document everything you can remember about your last few weeks there and any conversations about the layoffs.
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Jeremiah Brown
•How did you get your coworkers to give statements? I'm worried mine won't want to get involved since they still work there.
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JacksonHarris
•I just asked honestly and explained that I needed their help. Most people understand that unemployment benefits are important and won't lie for a bad employer. You can also ask them to just confirm basic facts rather than making formal statements.
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Royal_GM_Mark
This is so frustrating!! Why do employers even bother lying when there are multiple witnesses to layoffs? Your company sounds like they're trying to avoid paying into the unemployment system. I went through something similar and it took FOREVER to get through to someone at NYS Department of Labor to explain my side. If you can't reach them by phone, you might want to try that Claimyr service - I found it on claimyr.com and they actually got me connected to a live agent who could review my case details. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. Sometimes you really need to talk to a real person to explain these complex situations.
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Matthew Sanchez
•I haven't heard of that service before. Did it actually work for getting through to NYS Department of Labor? I've been trying to call for days with no luck.
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Amelia Cartwright
oh no this is my worst nightmare! what if they have some fake documentation or something? can employers just make stuff up and get away with it?? i'm supposed to start my claim next week and now i'm terrified my boss will lie about why i left
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Ella Thompson
•Take a deep breath - NYS Department of Labor handles these disputes regularly and they're trained to spot inconsistencies in employer claims. If you're leaving for legitimate reasons, document everything and file your claim as normal.
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Chris King
been there done that with lying employers. the good news is NYS DOL usually sees right through their BS especially when the stories dont add up. if you were really laid off with other people thats pretty easy to verify. just stick to the facts and dont let them intimidate you
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Rachel Clark
I actually work in HR (different company obviously) and I can tell you that employers who falsify information to unemployment offices can face serious penalties from NYS Department of Labor. They're required to provide truthful and accurate information during these investigations. If you have any documentation showing this was a layoff rather than misconduct, that's going to be very valuable. Keep copies of everything and submit it through the proper channels during your adjudication process.
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Matthew Sanchez
•That's really reassuring to hear from someone in HR. I was starting to think employers could just say whatever they wanted. Do you know what kind of penalties they face for lying?
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Rachel Clark
•NYS Department of Labor can impose fines and require employers to reimburse benefits that were wrongfully denied. They take fraud seriously from both sides - employers and claimants.
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Daniel Rivera
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My employer claimed I was fired for "poor performance" when I was actually part of a company-wide restructuring. It was so stressful waiting for the decision, but NYS Department of Labor sided with me after reviewing all the evidence. What really helped my case was getting a written statement from my former supervisor (who had moved to a different company by then) confirming that my termination was due to restructuring, not performance. Also, I found old company emails mentioning the layoffs that I had forwarded to my personal email months earlier. Don't give up - the truth usually comes out during their investigation process!
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Abigail bergen
I'm going through something similar right now and it's absolutely nerve-wracking! My former employer is claiming I was terminated for "insubordination" when I was actually let go because they lost a major client. The whole thing feels so unfair. Reading through everyone's experiences here is really helpful though - it sounds like NYS Department of Labor does their due diligence in investigating these disputes. I've been gathering emails and any documentation I can find about the real reason for my termination. Has anyone had success getting former coworkers to provide statements even after they've left the company? I'm trying to track down a few people who witnessed what actually happened.
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Giovanni Greco
•I'm in a similar boat right now - it's such a stressful situation when employers twist the truth! For tracking down former coworkers, I've had luck using LinkedIn to find people who've moved on to other companies. They're often more willing to help once they're not worried about retaliation from the old employer. Also, don't forget about any managers or supervisors who might have left before you did - they can be really valuable witnesses since they have nothing to lose. I found that being upfront about needing help with an unemployment dispute and keeping the request simple (just asking them to confirm basic facts) made people more comfortable helping out.
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Kiara Fisherman
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stress - it's incredibly frustrating when employers try to dodge their responsibilities by making false claims. The silver lining is that NYS Department of Labor has seen these tactics countless times and they know what to look for. Since you mentioned you were laid off with 3 other people, that's actually strong evidence in your favor because it shows a pattern of layoffs rather than individual misconduct. Try to get contact information for those other laid-off coworkers if possible - even if they just confirm they were also let go for "budget cuts" on the same day, that contradicts the misconduct narrative. Also, if your supervisor specifically told you it wasn't performance-related, try to remember if anyone else was present during that conversation or if there were any follow-up emails. Document everything you can remember about that final conversation and the days leading up to it. The investigation process can feel overwhelming, but stay focused on the facts and you should be okay.
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Oliver Cheng
•This is really solid advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my employer is claiming I quit when I was actually terminated. The part about documenting that final conversation is so important - I wish I had thought to write down everything my manager said right after it happened. For anyone reading this who might face layoffs in the future, definitely save any company-wide emails about budget issues or restructuring to your personal email. It's crazy how employers think they can just rewrite history, but it sounds like NYS Department of Labor is pretty good at getting to the truth.
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Giovanni Conti
I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago and it was terrifying at first! My employer claimed I was fired for "violation of company policy" when I was actually laid off due to a contract ending. The key thing that saved me was having everything in writing. I had saved emails to my personal account about the contract ending, and I was able to get statements from two other people who were let go the same week. NYS Department of Labor really does investigate thoroughly - they called my former supervisor directly and the story fell apart when she couldn't provide any specific examples of policy violations. It took about a month to get resolved, but I did receive all my back benefits. Start gathering any documentation now about the layoffs affecting your department, and don't be afraid to reach out to those other 3 coworkers who were let go with you. Most people understand how important unemployment benefits are and will help if they can. Stay strong - the truth usually wins out in these cases!
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Drew Hathaway
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to hear that NYS Department of Labor actually investigates thoroughly and calls employers directly! I'm feeling a bit more hopeful now. I do have that HR email about the layoffs that I mentioned earlier, and I think I can reach out to at least 2 of the other people who were laid off with me. One question though - when you say you saved emails to your personal account, did you do that while you were still employed? I'm wondering if there are any other company communications I might have missed that could help my case. The part about your supervisor not being able to provide specific examples really gives me hope since my situation sounds very similar.
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Maxwell St. Laurent
I'm so sorry you're going through this stress! As someone who just went through a similar ordeal a few months ago, I want to reassure you that NYS Department of Labor really does take these investigations seriously. My former employer tried to claim I was fired for "tardiness" when I was actually part of a department closure, and they ended up looking foolish when the investigator asked for specific documentation they couldn't provide. The fact that you were laid off with 3 other people is actually huge evidence in your favor - that's clearly a reduction in force, not individual misconduct. I'd suggest creating a timeline of everything that happened in your final weeks there, including any conversations about budget cuts or company financial issues. Also, check if your company made any public announcements about layoffs or if there were any news articles about their financial situation around that time. Sometimes companies announce layoffs publicly but then try to classify them as individual terminations to avoid unemployment costs. One thing that really helped me was reaching out to former coworkers through LinkedIn after they had found new jobs - they were much more willing to provide honest statements once they weren't worried about their current employment. Don't let your employer's lies discourage you from fighting this. The system is designed to protect workers from exactly this kind of dishonest behavior!
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Emma Davis
•This is incredibly helpful advice! I never thought about checking for public announcements about layoffs - that's such a smart idea. My company did send out a company-wide email about "organizational restructuring" a few weeks before the layoffs happened, and I think I might still have that in my work email. Is there a way to access old work emails after termination, or should I have forwarded those to my personal account beforehand? Also, the LinkedIn approach for contacting former coworkers makes so much sense - I was worried about reaching out to people who still work there, but finding people who have moved on is perfect. Thank you for the encouragement about fighting this - it really helps to hear from someone who went through the same thing and came out successful!
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Freya Andersen
I'm currently dealing with a similar situation and it's been such an emotional rollercoaster! My former employer is claiming I was fired for "poor attitude" when I was actually laid off due to store closure - they're literally closing the entire location but somehow trying to make it sound like it was my fault. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring though. I've been keeping detailed notes of every interaction I've had with NYS Department of Labor so far, and I'm gathering evidence like the store closure notice that was posted publicly and statements from customers who knew about the closure. It's wild how some employers think they can just rewrite history! Has anyone had experience with retail store closures specifically? I'm wondering if there are any particular types of evidence that work well in these cases.
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Nina Fitzgerald
•Store closures should actually be one of the easiest types of layoffs to prove since there's usually so much public documentation! You're smart to gather that store closure notice - that's probably the strongest piece of evidence you could have. I'd also suggest checking local news websites or business journals to see if they covered your store's closure, and maybe look for any corporate press releases about location closures. The fact that they're trying to claim "poor attitude" when the entire store is closing is honestly laughable - NYS Department of Labor investigators see through these kinds of obvious contradictions all the time. If you have any regular customers who knew about the closure timeline, their informal statements could be helpful too. You've got this - store closures are pretty much the most clear-cut case of "not the employee's fault" that exists!
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Grace Johnson
I'm so sorry you're going through this - it's absolutely infuriating when employers try to rewrite history to avoid their unemployment insurance obligations! But honestly, the fact that you were laid off with 3 other people in your department is going to work strongly in your favor. That's a clear pattern of workforce reduction, not individual misconduct. I went through something similar about 8 months ago when my employer claimed I was fired for "insubordination" after they eliminated my entire team due to budget cuts. What really helped me was creating a detailed written account of everything that happened in my final weeks there, including exact quotes from conversations with my supervisor. Since your supervisor specifically told you the layoff wasn't performance-related, try to remember exactly when and where that conversation happened - even small details can help establish credibility. Also, definitely reach out to those other 3 coworkers who were laid off with you if you can. Even if they just confirm they were let go the same day for budget reasons, that completely contradicts your employer's misconduct claim. Most people are willing to help with something like this because they understand how crucial unemployment benefits are. NYS Department of Labor has heard every excuse in the book from employers trying to dodge their responsibilities. They know what real misconduct looks like versus transparent attempts to avoid paying unemployment taxes. Stay organized with your documentation, respond promptly to any requests, and don't let them intimidate you. The truth is on your side here!
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Andre Dupont
•This is such great advice about creating that detailed written account! I'm definitely going to sit down tonight and write out everything I can remember about those final weeks, especially that conversation with my supervisor about it not being performance-related. You're absolutely right that having 3 other people laid off the same day completely contradicts their misconduct story - I can't believe I was so panicked that I didn't realize how strong that evidence actually is. I'm going to reach out to at least two of them this weekend. It's really encouraging to hear that NYS Department of Labor sees through these tactics regularly. I was starting to feel like maybe I was naive for thinking the truth would matter, but everyone's experiences here show that it really does. Thank you for the reminder to stay organized and not let them intimidate me - I needed to hear that!
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Lucas Adams
I'm going through something very similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful to read! My employer is claiming I was terminated for "failure to follow procedures" when I was actually part of a department-wide layoff due to budget constraints. Like you, I was told directly by my manager that it had nothing to do with my performance and everything to do with cost-cutting measures. What's been really eye-opening from reading everyone's experiences here is how common this seems to be - employers apparently lie to avoid paying unemployment costs all the time! I've started gathering documentation like company emails about budget issues and I'm planning to reach out to the other people who were laid off with me. It's reassuring to hear that NYS Department of Labor actually investigates these claims thoroughly and can spot inconsistencies in employer stories. The stress of waiting for a decision while worrying about rent and bills is awful, but it sounds like most people who fight these false claims end up winning. Don't let them intimidate you - you know what really happened and the evidence should back you up. Keep us updated on how your case goes!
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Ravi Choudhury
•Thank you for sharing your experience - it really helps to know I'm not alone in dealing with this! The "failure to follow procedures" claim when you were part of a department-wide layoff sounds so similar to my situation. It's both frustrating and oddly comforting to learn how common these employer lies apparently are. I'm definitely going to follow your lead on gathering those company budget-related emails. Did you have any luck finding old emails about the financial situation or cost-cutting measures in your personal email? I'm kicking myself for not forwarding more company communications before I was let go. The waiting and uncertainty about rent money is definitely the worst part, but reading everyone's success stories here is giving me hope that the truth will come out during the investigation.
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