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Can you apply for unemployment if your hours are reduced in Washington ESD?

My manager just told me they're cutting my hours from 40 to 20 per week starting next month due to slow business. I'm wondering if I can apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD for the reduced hours? I've never filed for UI before and don't know if partial unemployment is a thing. Still keeping my job but losing half my income is going to be really tough. Anyone know how this works with Washington ESD?

Yes, you can absolutely file for partial unemployment benefits in Washington! It's called underemployment and Washington ESD covers this situation. You'll need to report your reduced wages each week when you file your weekly claim, and they'll calculate a partial benefit amount based on the difference.

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That's such a relief! Do I file the same way as regular unemployment or is there a different process?

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Same application process through the Washington ESD website. Just make sure to answer honestly about still being employed when they ask about your work status.

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I went through this exact situation last year. You definitely qualify for partial benefits but the amount might be less than you expect. Washington ESD deducts a portion of whatever you earn from your weekly benefit amount.

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How much did they deduct? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle of filing weekly claims.

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They subtract 75% of your weekly earnings from your benefit amount, so you keep 25% of what you earn plus whatever's left of your weekly benefit. For me it was still worth it.

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Just went through the partial unemployment process myself. One thing to watch out for - you still have to meet all the job search requirements even though you're working reduced hours. That means 3 job contacts per week and keeping a log.

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Wait, I have to look for other jobs while I'm still employed? That seems weird.

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Yeah it's one of the requirements. You're technically considered unemployed for the hours you're not working, so Washington ESD expects you to be seeking full-time employment.

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That's so stupid. Why would they make you job hunt when you already have a job, just reduced hours?

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I had a nightmare experience trying to get through to Washington ESD when I had questions about my partial claim. Spent literally hours on hold multiple times and kept getting disconnected. Finally found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that helped me actually reach a real person. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Game changer for getting answers about the partial benefit calculations.

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How does that work? Do they call for you or something?

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Yeah, they handle the calling and waiting so you don't have to sit on hold. Saved me so much frustration when I needed to verify my partial benefit amount.

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Never heard of that but sounds useful. Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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Make sure you file your initial claim as soon as possible! I waited a few weeks thinking my hours might go back up and it delayed my benefits. Washington ESD has a waiting week anyway, so better to start the process early.

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Good point. Even if my hours increase later, I can always stop filing the weekly claims right?

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Exactly. You just stop filing when you no longer need the partial benefits. No penalty for that.

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Ugh this whole system is so confusing. Why can't Washington ESD just make it simple - if you're working less, you get some help. All these rules and requirements are ridiculous.

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I get the frustration but the rules exist to prevent fraud. The system works pretty well once you understand it.

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Maybe for you but I've been fighting with them for months over my claim status.

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One more tip - keep detailed records of your reduced hours and pay stubs. Washington ESD might ask for verification of your earnings during the adjudication process, especially if it's your first claim.

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What's adjudication? Should I be worried about that?

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It's just their review process to make sure everything checks out. Pretty routine for new claims, nothing to stress about if you're honest on your application.

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My adjudication took like 6 weeks though, so don't expect quick approval.

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Also worth mentioning - if your employer laid you off completely instead of just reducing hours, you'd get more in benefits. Partial unemployment pays less because you're still earning some income.

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Yeah but at least I still have some job security this way. Hopefully business picks up and they restore my full hours.

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Definitely better to keep the job if possible. Just wanted you to understand the benefit difference.

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Been there with the reduced hours thing. It really sucks but the partial benefits do help cover some of the lost income. Just be prepared for the weekly claims to be kind of tedious - you have to report your exact wages every week.

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How exact do they need? Like down to the penny or just rounded amounts?

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They want the exact gross amount before taxes. I just used the amounts from my pay stubs.

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My cousin went through this and said the hardest part was the job search requirement. She felt awkward applying for other jobs while still employed, even with reduced hours.

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Yeah that does seem awkward. What if my current employer finds out I'm job hunting?

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You're not required to tell potential employers why you're looking. You can just say you're seeking additional opportunities.

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The whole job search thing is stupid when you already have a job. Washington ESD should focus on getting people back to full employment, not making them jump through hoops.

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The requirement makes sense though - the goal is to get people back to full-time work, not just supplement part-time income indefinitely.

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Easy for you to say. Some of us don't have other options right now.

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Quick question - do you have to be available for full-time work to get partial benefits? I can only work certain days due to childcare.

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You need to be able and available for work, but limited availability due to childcare is usually acceptable as long as you're genuinely seeking employment within your constraints.

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Thanks, that helps. I was worried they'd deny my claim for not being available 24/7.

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Another vote for using Claimyr if you need to talk to Washington ESD about your partial claim. I was so confused about how they calculated my benefit amount and couldn't get through on the phone. Claimyr got me connected to someone who explained the whole formula.

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Is it expensive to use their service?

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Worth every penny when you consider how much time it saves vs trying to call yourself. Plus getting accurate information about your benefits is important.

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I filed for partial unemployment last month and still haven't heard anything back from Washington ESD. My claim just says 'under review' with no timeline. Anyone know how long this usually takes?

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Mine took about 3-4 weeks for the initial determination. The first few weeks are always slow while they verify everything.

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That's frustrating but good to know it's normal. I was starting to think something went wrong with my application.

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Pro tip: make sure your employer doesn't contest your claim. Some employers get upset when you file for partial benefits even though it's totally legal. Mine tried to say I was still full-time but I had all my pay stubs to prove otherwise.

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Can they legally contest it if my hours were actually reduced?

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They can contest anything but if you have documentation showing reduced hours, Washington ESD will side with you. Just keep good records.

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Does anyone know if you can file for partial benefits if you're working two part-time jobs but your total hours got cut? I lost one of my part-time positions completely.

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Yes, losing one part-time job while keeping another still qualifies you for partial benefits. You'd report the wages from your remaining job on your weekly claims.

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Great, thanks! I wasn't sure if having any job at all would disqualify me.

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The partial benefit calculation is confusing but here's how it works: They take 75% of your weekly wages and subtract that from your weekly benefit amount. So if your benefit is $400/week and you earn $200, you'd get $400 - ($200 x 0.75) = $250 in benefits.

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That actually helps a lot! I was trying to figure out the math. So I'd still get something even if I'm working part-time.

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Exactly, as long as your wages don't exceed 1.33 times your weekly benefit amount, you'll get some partial payment.

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Been on partial benefits for 2 months now. The weekly claims become routine after a while. Just remember to file every week even if you didn't work - you still need to certify that you're available for work.

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What happens if I forget to file one week?

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You can usually file a late claim but it might delay your payment. Better to set a reminder on your phone for the same day each week.

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Last thing I'll mention - if your hours get restored to full-time, make sure to stop filing immediately. Washington ESD will come after you for overpayment if you keep claiming benefits while working full-time.

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Good to know. I definitely don't want to deal with an overpayment situation down the road.

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Yeah those overpayment notices are no joke. They want their money back with interest if you mess up.

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Hope this all works out for you! Partial unemployment benefits really helped me get through a tough period when my hours were cut. The system isn't perfect but it does provide some financial relief when you need it most.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much more confident about filing now.

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You're welcome! Don't hesitate to ask if you run into any issues with your claim.

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