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Can school employees collect unemployment in Washington - confused about my eligibility

I work as a teacher's aide in a elementary school here in Washington and our summer break just started. I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits during the summer months when school is out? I've heard different things from coworkers - some say school employees can't collect unemployment at all, others say it depends on your contract type. I'm not sure what my status is since I'm classified as a part-time employee but work full-time hours during the school year. Does anyone know the rules for Washington ESD regarding school employees and unemployment? I really need the income during summer break to pay my bills.

School employees in Washington can be tricky when it comes to unemployment eligibility. It really depends on your specific employment contract and whether you have reasonable assurance of returning to work. If you're a regular employee with a contract that guarantees your return in the fall, Washington ESD typically won't approve benefits during summer break.

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I don't have a formal contract guaranteeing my return, but they usually ask everyone back. Does that make a difference?

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That's actually a key distinction! If there's no written guarantee of return, you might be eligible. You should definitely file and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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I'm a substitute teacher and I collect unemployment every summer. The key is whether you have 'reasonable assurance' of returning. If you're just a regular employee without a contract, you should be able to file.

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That's encouraging! Did you have any issues when you first filed with Washington ESD?

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First time took forever because they had to review my school employment. Took about 3 weeks for adjudication.

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I had a similar situation last year and couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to get clarity on my school employment status. Ended up using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually reach an agent who could explain the rules. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Never heard of that service before. Did it actually help you get through to someone at Washington ESD?

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Yeah, got connected to an agent within like 30 minutes instead of the usual 2-3 hour wait times. Worth it when you need actual answers about your specific situation.

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Interesting, I might have to try that too. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for days about my school employment questions.

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SCHOOL EMPLOYEES GET SCREWED BY THE SYSTEM! I've been fighting this for years. They make you work for peanuts during the school year then deny you benefits when you need them most. The 'reasonable assurance' rule is just another way to keep working people down!

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I understand the frustration, but the rules do make some sense. If you have a guaranteed job in the fall, unemployment isn't really the right program.

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Easy to say when you're not living paycheck to paycheck! School employees deserve the same protections as everyone else.

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For Washington ESD, the specific criteria for school employees is pretty clear: 1) You need to be between academic terms, 2) You can't have reasonable assurance of returning, and 3) You need to meet the regular unemployment requirements. Since you mentioned you're part-time classified but work full-time hours, make sure you have documentation of your actual work schedule.

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That's really helpful! I do have my time sheets showing I worked 40 hours most weeks. Should I include those when I file?

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Absolutely! Those time sheets will be crucial in establishing your work history and earnings for Washington ESD to calculate your benefit amount.

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just file and see what happens, worst they can do is say no

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True, but I don't want to mess anything up if I'm not eligible. Don't want to create problems for myself.

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Filing when you think you might be eligible is totally fine. Washington ESD will make the determination based on your specific situation.

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One thing to watch out for - if you do get approved, you'll still need to do job search activities during the summer. Washington ESD requires you to be actively looking for work even if you plan to return to school employment in the fall.

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Oh wow, I didn't think about that. Do I need to apply for jobs even though I'll probably go back to my school position?

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Yeah, you need to meet the job search requirements. Keep track of your applications in case they audit your job search log.

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The job search requirement is usually 3 job contacts per week in Washington. Make sure you document everything properly.

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My sister works in a school cafeteria and she gets unemployment every summer. I think it really depends on your specific role and contract situation.

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That's good to know. Maybe I should just file and see what happens like someone else suggested.

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Another option if you're still confused about your eligibility is to call Washington ESD directly. Though like I mentioned before, getting through can be a nightmare. I had much better luck with that Claimyr service when I needed to talk to someone about my school employment status.

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How much does something like that cost though? I'm already strapped for cash.

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It's worth checking out their site for details, but when you consider the time saved and actually getting answers, it was worth it for me.

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Just to clarify one more time - the key factors Washington ESD looks at for school employees are: 1) Type of employment contract, 2) Whether you have reasonable assurance of returning, 3) Your work history and earnings. Since you mentioned you're part-time classified but work full-time hours, that might actually work in your favor for eligibility.

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This has been super helpful everyone. I think I'm going to file and provide all my documentation. Sounds like I might actually be eligible.

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Good luck! Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit to Washington ESD.

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I work as a school secretary and I've been collecting unemployment for the past 3 summers. The first year was confusing but once Washington ESD approved me, it's been smooth sailing. Just make sure you file your weekly claims on time and keep doing your job searches.

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That's really encouraging! Did you have any issues with the adjudication process the first time?

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It took about 2-3 weeks for them to review my school employment situation, but once they approved me it was fine.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question last week and couldn't get through after 4 hours of trying. Might have to look into that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Seriously, it's a game changer. I wasted so many hours trying to get through the regular way before I found that service.

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Yeah, I'm tired of wasting entire days on hold. Going to check out that video demo you mentioned.

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dont forget you need to report any income you get over the summer too, like if you do tutoring or summer school work

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Good point! I might do some tutoring this summer so I'll need to keep track of that.

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Yes, any earnings need to be reported on your weekly claims. Washington ESD will reduce your benefits based on what you earn.

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I'm a bus driver for the school district and I collect every summer. The key is that I don't have a contract guaranteeing I'll be back - they just usually ask me to return. Sounds like your situation might be similar.

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That does sound similar! I think I'm going to file this week and see what happens.

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Good luck! The worst they can do is say no, but it sounds like you might qualify.

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Make sure when you file that you explain your employment situation clearly. Washington ESD needs to understand that you're not guaranteed to return and that you work full-time hours even though you're classified as part-time.

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I'll make sure to be very detailed in my application. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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You're welcome! Hope it works out for you. Feel free to update us on how it goes.

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Quick question - if I get approved for unemployment as a school employee, do I need to accept job offers that come up during the summer? I really want to return to my school position in the fall.

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You're generally required to accept suitable work if offered, but there are some exceptions. You should discuss this with Washington ESD when you file.

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The suitable work requirements can be complex. Best to get clarification from Washington ESD about your specific situation.

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I filed as a school employee last year and got approved after about 3 weeks of adjudication. The key was providing documentation that I wasn't guaranteed to return. My advice is to file sooner rather than later since the review process can take time.

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Thanks! I'm definitely going to file this week. Sounds like most people in similar situations get approved eventually.

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Yeah, just be patient with the process. Washington ESD has to review each school employee case individually.

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One last thought - if you do need to contact Washington ESD directly about your school employment status, that Claimyr service I mentioned really does work. Saved me hours of frustration trying to get through the regular phone lines.

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I'm definitely going to try that if I run into issues. Better than wasting days trying to get through on my own.

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Good to know there's an option if I need to talk to someone directly. Thanks for sharing that!

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Just wanted to add - make sure you keep all your school employment records organized. Washington ESD might ask for additional documentation during the review process, especially for school employees.

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Will do! I'll gather all my timesheets, pay stubs, and any other employment documentation before I file.

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That's smart. Being prepared with documentation can speed up the adjudication process significantly.

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This thread has been really helpful! I'm in a similar situation as a school paraprofessional. Going to file this week too and see what happens.

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Good luck! Sounds like we're both in similar boats. Hope it works out for both of us!

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Best of luck to both of you. Remember to file your weekly claims consistently if you get approved.

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I'm a school custodian and went through this same situation last year. The good news is that Washington ESD approved me after about 4 weeks of review. What really helped my case was showing that even though I've worked at the same school for 3 years, I don't have any written contract or formal guarantee that I'll be rehired each year. They just verbally ask me to come back. Also, make sure to emphasize that you work full-time hours even though you're classified as part-time - that was a key factor in my approval. I'd recommend filing as soon as possible since the adjudication process can take a while, and you want to get that clock started. Don't let the bureaucracy discourage you - if you're truly not guaranteed to return, you deserve those benefits during the summer months when you have no income.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone in a similar position! The fact that you got approved even after working at the same school for years gives me hope. I'm in almost the exact same situation - no written contract, just verbal expectations to return, and working full-time hours despite being classified part-time. I'm definitely going to file this week and make sure to highlight those key points in my application. Four weeks seems reasonable for the review process. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm also a school employee (teacher's aide) in a very similar situation - no written contract, just verbal expectations to return, and working full-time hours despite part-time classification. Your experience gives me confidence that I should definitely file. The 4-week timeline is helpful to know too, so I can set proper expectations. Did you have any trouble with the job search requirements during the summer while waiting to return to your custodial position?

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This gives me so much hope! I'm in the exact same boat - teacher's aide with no written contract, just verbal assurance they'll "probably" ask me back. The fact that you emphasized the full-time hours despite part-time classification is really helpful advice. I've been stressed about this all week but your success story makes me feel like I actually have a good chance. Going to gather all my timesheets and pay stubs this weekend and file on Monday. Did Washington ESD ask for any specific documentation during your review process?

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