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Giovanni Martello

Can school cafeteria workers collect unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I work as a cafeteria worker at an elementary school in Spokane and our school year just ended. I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits during the summer break? I've heard mixed things from other cafeteria staff - some say yes, others say no because we're 'seasonal' workers. Does anyone know the actual rules for school employees in Washington state? I really need the income during summer months since I don't get paid when school's not in session.

Yes, school cafeteria workers can usually collect unemployment in Washington! The key is whether your position is considered 'between terms' employment. If you have reasonable assurance of returning to work in the fall, Washington ESD might deny your claim. But if there's no guarantee you'll be rehired, you should be eligible.

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Thanks! I do have a contract for next year, so I guess that counts as 'reasonable assurance'? This is confusing.

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If you have a signed contract for the fall, Washington ESD will likely consider that reasonable assurance and deny your summer claim. It's frustrating but that's how the law works.

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I'm in the same boat! Been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks to get clarification on this exact situation. Their phone lines are always busy and I keep getting disconnected.

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Have you tried calling right at 8am when they open? That's usually the best time to get through to an agent.

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Yes! I've tried that multiple times. Even tried the callback option but never got a call back. It's so frustrating.

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I actually found a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to Washington ESD when I couldn't reach them myself. They have this automated calling system that keeps trying until someone picks up. Check out claimyr.com - there's even a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Really? How does that work exactly? Is it expensive?

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It's pretty straightforward - you just tell them what you need to discuss with Washington ESD and they handle the calling part. Way less stressful than sitting on hold for hours.

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WAIT A MINUTE - I thought ALL school employees were automatically disqualified from unemployment during breaks? My sister works for a different district and she was told she couldn't file at all!

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That's a common misconception. It depends on your specific job classification and whether you have reasonable assurance of returning. Not all school employees are treated the same way.

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Oh wow, so it's not a blanket rule? I should probably look into this for myself then.

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This is all so confusing. I really wish I could just talk to someone at Washington ESD to get a straight answer about my specific situation.

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I feel you! The Washington ESD website has some info but it's not super clear for school employees specifically.

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Maybe try filing anyway and see what happens? Worst case they deny it and you know for sure.

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Here's what I know from experience: Food service workers are often classified differently than teachers or other school staff. You might have better luck than you think, especially if your hours vary or if there's any uncertainty about next year's staffing.

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That's interesting! My hours do change depending on enrollment and meal programs. Maybe that makes a difference?

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Exactly! Variable hours and uncertainty about your position can work in your favor for unemployment eligibility.

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ugh why is this so complicated? I just want to know if I can pay my rent this summer!

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I know right? The whole system seems designed to confuse people.

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Hang in there! At least you're asking the right questions now.

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Let me clarify the actual Washington state rules: School employees can collect unemployment IF they don't have reasonable assurance of returning AND if they're available for other work. The 'between terms' denial only applies if you have a contract or clear expectation of returning.

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So since I do have a contract for fall, I'm probably out of luck?

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Most likely, yes. But you could still apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. Sometimes there are exceptions based on specific circumstances.

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I work at a high school cafeteria and filed last summer - got denied because of the 'reasonable assurance' thing. Even though I technically had a contract, my hours weren't guaranteed to be the same.

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Did you appeal the decision?

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No, I should have though. I was told appeals sometimes work if your situation is complicated.

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Has anyone actually used that Claimyr thing mentioned earlier? I'm desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my school job situation too.

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Yes! I used it when I had issues with my adjudication. Took about 20 minutes to get connected versus the 3+ hours I was spending trying to call myself.

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That sounds amazing. I'll check it out - thanks for the recommendation!

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My mom worked school food service for 15 years and never got unemployment during summers. She always said it was just part of the job - you budget for those months without pay.

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That's the old way of thinking. Rules have changed and it's worth checking now.

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Exactly! No reason not to apply if you might be eligible.

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I work for a charter school and our situation might be different than regular public schools. Anyone know if the same rules apply?

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Good question! Charter schools might have different employment classifications. You'd need to check with Washington ESD directly about your specific employer.

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Makes sense. Guess I need to brave those phone lines!

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The whole school employee unemployment thing is such a mess. I know bus drivers who get it and cafeteria workers who don't, all in the same district!

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It really comes down to individual circumstances and job classifications. That's why talking to Washington ESD directly is so important.

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Which brings us back to the original problem - actually getting through to them!

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I successfully got unemployment as a school custodian last summer. The key was proving my hours weren't guaranteed to be the same when school started back up.

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How did you prove that? Did you need documentation?

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I had to provide my employment contract and show that my hours were listed as 'up to X hours' rather than guaranteed X hours.

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Word of advice - if you do apply and get denied, definitely appeal! I know someone who won their appeal for a school food service job.

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How long does the appeal process take? I can't afford to wait months for a decision.

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Usually 4-6 weeks from what I've seen. Not super fast but not terrible either.

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This thread is so helpful! I had no idea school employees could potentially get unemployment. Definitely going to look into this for my situation.

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Same here! Always assumed it was impossible.

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Knowledge is power! Good luck everyone.

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Just wanted to add that if you do get approved for unemployment as a school worker, you still have to do the job search requirements unless you qualify for standby status.

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What's standby status?

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It's when you have a definite return-to-work date and don't need to actively search for other jobs. But it's pretty specific circumstances.

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The bottom line is this: school cafeteria workers CAN potentially get unemployment in Washington, but it depends on your specific contract terms and job security. File if you think you qualify!

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I think I'll try to get through to Washington ESD and maybe use that Claimyr service if needed.

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Good luck! Hope you get the benefits you need for the summer.

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One more tip - keep detailed records of your employment terms and any communications with your school district. You might need them if you have to appeal a denial.

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Great advice! Documentation is everything with Washington ESD.

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Wish someone had told me that when I first started dealing with unemployment claims!

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This whole discussion shows how complicated unemployment can be for school employees. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge!

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Agreed! This kind of info sharing is so valuable.

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Hope this helps other school workers who might be reading this too.

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I'm a cafeteria worker too and just went through this exact situation last month! I ended up calling Washington ESD using that Claimyr service someone mentioned - it really does work. The agent told me that even with a contract, if your hours can change significantly or if there's any uncertainty about your actual position (like budget cuts, enrollment changes, etc.), you might still qualify. She said the "reasonable assurance" rule isn't as black and white as it seems. Definitely worth applying even if you think you might get denied initially. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised! Also keep all your employment paperwork - contract, job description, anything showing how your hours might vary.

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That's really encouraging to hear! I've been so stressed about this whole situation. The "reasonable assurance" thing is what's been confusing me the most - my contract says I'm hired for next year but you're right that enrollment and budget changes could affect everything. Did the agent give you any specific advice on how to word your application or what documentation to include? I want to make sure I present my case in the best way possible.

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