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Sarah Jones

Can per diem employees collect unemployment benefits from Washington ESD?

I've been working as a per diem nurse at several hospitals in Seattle for the past 2 years. My hours have been drastically cut due to budget constraints and I'm wondering if I can file for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? I technically don't have a set schedule and work when called, but this is my primary source of income. Has anyone in a similar per diem situation successfully filed for UI benefits? I'm confused about whether I qualify since I'm not technically laid off from a single employer.

Yes, per diem workers can definitely qualify for unemployment in Washington state! I was in a similar situation working per diem at multiple healthcare facilities. You just need to show that your work has significantly decreased through no fault of your own.

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That's reassuring to hear! Did you have any issues during the application process since you worked for multiple employers?

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Not really, just make sure you report ALL your employers from the past 18 months when you file. Washington ESD will contact each one to verify your wages and work history.

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The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you're able and available for work, and whether your reduction in hours is involuntary. Since per diem means you're available when called but not guaranteed hours, you should qualify if your work opportunities have decreased significantly.

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Good point about the involuntary reduction. My hours went from about 32 per week to maybe 8-10, so that should definitely count.

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Exactly! That's a substantial reduction. Make sure to document this when you file your claim - keep records of your typical hours versus current hours.

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I tried filing as a per diem worker last year and got stuck in adjudication for weeks because Washington ESD couldn't reach one of my employers to verify employment. It was a nightmare trying to get through to someone on the phone to explain my situation.

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That sounds super frustrating! I had a similar issue with getting through to Washington ESD. Have you heard of Claimyr? It's a service that helps people get through to ESD agents. I found it at claimyr.com and they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Never heard of that but I'll definitely check it out. Anything is better than calling 500 times and getting disconnected.

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Thanks for sharing that resource! I'm worried about getting stuck in adjudication too since I have so many different employers.

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wait so do per diem workers have to do the job search requirement too?? that seems weird if youre already looking for more hours at your existing jobs

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Yes, you still need to meet the job search requirements unless you're on standby status with a specific employer. Per diem workers typically need to log 3 job search activities per week just like other claimants.

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ugh that's annoying but makes sense i guess

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The important thing to remember is that Washington ESD determines eligibility based on your base period wages from ALL employers. As a per diem worker, you'll need to provide wage information from every place you worked in the past 18 months, which can be a lot of paperwork.

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Should I gather all my pay stubs before I file, or will Washington ESD get that information directly from my employers?

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Washington ESD will contact employers directly, but it's good to have your pay stubs as backup in case there are discrepancies or if an employer doesn't respond quickly.

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Been there! Per diem healthcare worker here too. Filed last spring when my hospital cut way back on per diem shifts. Took about 3 weeks to get approved but I did get benefits. The tricky part was explaining to Washington ESD that I wasn't quitting, just that there wasn't work available.

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That's exactly my situation! How did you explain it in your application? I'm worried they'll think I'm still employed and not eligible.

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I emphasized that my work opportunities decreased dramatically due to employer budget cuts, not by my choice. I also provided documentation showing my typical hours versus current available hours.

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One thing to watch out for - if you do pick up any per diem shifts while collecting UI, make sure you report those earnings on your weekly claim. Even small amounts need to be reported or you could face an overpayment issue later.

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Good reminder! I assume I report the gross amount before taxes?

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Yes, always report gross earnings. Washington ESD will calculate how it affects your weekly benefit amount.

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This whole system is so confusing for per diem workers. The regular employment rules don't really fit our situation but somehow we're supposed to navigate it the same way.

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Totally agree! That's why I ended up using Claimyr to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD who could explain how the rules apply to per diem work specifically. Worth every penny to avoid the confusion.

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I might have to look into that service too. This is all giving me a headache.

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Pro tip: When you file your weekly claims, be very clear about your availability. As a per diem worker, you should indicate that you're available for work on the days/shifts you normally would be called in for.

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That makes sense. I usually work any shift they offer me, so I should probably indicate full availability.

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I know someone who got denied initially because Washington ESD thought per diem meant she was self-employed. She had to appeal and prove she was actually an employee, not an independent contractor. Make sure your employment classification is clear!

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Oh wow, I never thought about that distinction. All my per diem positions are W-2 employee positions, not 1099 contractor work.

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That's good! Having W-2s will make it much clearer that you're an employee eligible for UI benefits.

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does anyone know if the weekly benefit amount is calculated differently for per diem workers? like do they average your earnings differently?

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No, the calculation is the same. Washington ESD looks at your highest earning quarter during your base period and calculates your weekly benefit amount based on that, regardless of whether you were per diem, part-time, or full-time.

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ok cool that's what i was hoping

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Just want to echo what others have said about Claimyr being helpful. I used it when I had questions about my per diem eligibility and actually got to speak with someone at Washington ESD who knew the rules. Much better than trying to figure it out from the website alone.

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I'm definitely going to check out that service. Sounds like it could save me a lot of stress and confusion.

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Been collecting UI as a per diem worker for 2 months now. The key is being consistent with your weekly claims and honest about any work you do pick up. Washington ESD seems pretty understanding of the per diem situation once they understand it.

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That's encouraging! I was worried they'd be suspicious of per diem workers since our work patterns are so irregular.

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As long as you're truthful and can show that your work reduction wasn't voluntary, they're pretty fair about it.

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ugh the job search requirement is gonna be the worst part of this. like im already signed up with multiple hospitals and agencies for per diem work, what else am I supposed to apply for??

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You can count checking in with your existing per diem employers about available shifts as job search activities. Also look into other healthcare facilities, temp agencies, or even non-healthcare jobs if you're open to branching out.

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oh ok that helps, i didnt know checking for shifts could count

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The most important thing is to file sooner rather than later. I waited too long thinking I might get more hours and missed out on several weeks of benefits. Per diem workers definitely qualify, so don't hesitate!

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You're right, I've been putting it off hoping things would pick up. I should probably file this week.

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Definitely file ASAP. You can't get benefits for weeks before you file, even if you were eligible during those weeks.

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just make sure you keep good records of everything - your typical schedule before the cuts, current available hours, any communication with supervisors about the reduction. documentation is key if they ask questions

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Good point about keeping records. I should probably email my supervisors to document the hour reductions in writing.

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Update on my situation - I finally got through to Washington ESD using that Claimyr service someone mentioned. Turns out my adjudication delay was just because one employer hadn't responded to their request for wage verification. Once that got sorted out, my benefits were approved retroactively. Wish I'd known about that service months ago!

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That's great news! I'm definitely going to use Claimyr if I run into any issues with my claim.

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So glad it worked out for you! It's amazing how much stress that service can save when dealing with Washington ESD.

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One last tip from someone who's been through this - be patient with the process but persistent if something seems wrong. Per diem workers have valid claims, but sometimes you need to educate the system about your specific situation.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much more confident about filing now. Going to start my application tomorrow.

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Good luck! You've got this. Per diem workers deserve unemployment benefits just like anyone else when work dries up.

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