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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

Can PRN employees file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD?

I've been working as a PRN (per-needed) nurse at a local hospital for about 8 months. My hours have been really inconsistent - some weeks I get 32 hours, other weeks maybe 12, and last week I only got 4 hours. I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD since my income is so unpredictable? I'm technically still employed but barely getting any shifts. Has anyone else dealt with this situation with PRN work?

Yes, you can potentially file for partial unemployment benefits in Washington. Since you're still employed but getting reduced hours, you might qualify for what's called 'standby' status or partial benefits. You'll need to report your weekly earnings when you file your weekly claim, and Washington ESD will calculate if you're eligible for partial payments.

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That's helpful! Do I need to report my PRN status specifically when I apply, or just my reduced hours?

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Definitely mention your PRN status. Washington ESD needs to understand your employment arrangement to properly evaluate your claim.

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Sofia Morales

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact situation last month and could never get through. Spent literally hours on hold just to get disconnected. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual agent in like 15 minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Worth checking out if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your PRN situation.

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Dmitry Popov

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Never heard of that service but honestly anything is better than trying to call Washington ESD directly. Their phone system is a nightmare.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely look into that if I can't get through on my own.

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Ava Garcia

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PRN workers definitely can file for unemployment, but there are some specifics you need to know. Since you're 'as needed,' Washington ESD will look at your work history over the base period (usually your first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters). If you've earned enough wages during that time, you should qualify. The tricky part is that you'll need to be available for full-time work and actively job searching unless you're on standby status.

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Wait, what's the difference between regular unemployment and standby status? I'm still technically employed with the hospital.

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Ava Garcia

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Standby means you're temporarily laid off but expect to return to the same employer. Since you're PRN, you might not qualify for standby - you'd probably file regular unemployment and report your weekly earnings.

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StarSailor}

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This is confusing. I thought if you're still employed you can't get unemployment at all?

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Miguel Silva

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UGH this whole system is so complicated! I'm in a similar boat - working PRN at two different facilities and my hours are all over the place. Some weeks I make decent money, other weeks I'm scraping by. Why can't Washington ESD just have a simple answer for PRN workers???

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Zainab Ismail

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I feel you! The unemployment system wasn't really designed for gig work or irregular schedules.

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Have you tried applying yet? Sometimes it's easier to just file and see what happens rather than trying to figure out all the rules beforehand.

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One important thing to remember - when you file your weekly claims, you'll need to report ALL income from your PRN work, even if it's just a few hours. Washington ESD has a formula where they deduct a portion of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount. If you earn more than a certain threshold, you might not get any benefits that week, but you should still file the claim.

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Good to know. Is there a specific dollar amount where benefits get cut off completely?

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It depends on your weekly benefit amount. Generally, if you earn more than 1.5 times your weekly benefit amount, you won't get any unemployment that week.

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Dmitry Popov

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I worked PRN for almost a year before switching to full-time. Never thought about filing for unemployment during the slow periods. Wish I had known this was an option!

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Right? I had no idea either until my hours got really bad this month.

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Quick question - do you have to actively look for other jobs if you're filing unemployment while still working PRN? I love my hospital and don't want to leave, just need help covering bills during slow periods.

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Ava Garcia

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Yes, you generally need to be actively seeking work unless you qualify for standby status. You'll need to log your job search activities on WorkSourceWA.

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That seems kind of counterproductive if I'm still employed and just need temporary help...

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Unfortunately that's how the system works. You have to be 'able and available' for full-time work to receive benefits.

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Sofia Morales

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For what it's worth, when I used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD, the agent was really helpful explaining all this stuff. Way better than trying to figure it out from their website or automated phone system.

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Miguel Silva

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How much does that service cost? Is it worth it?

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Sofia Morales

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Honestly, after wasting so much time trying to call on my own, it was definitely worth it. Saved me hours of frustration.

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StarSailor}

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Wait I'm confused - if you're PRN doesn't that mean you can turn down shifts? How does that work with being 'available for work' for unemployment?

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Ava Garcia

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Good question. PRN status can be tricky because you're not guaranteed hours, but you're also not technically laid off. Washington ESD evaluates each case individually.

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Yeah, I can technically turn down shifts but if I do that too much they'll stop calling me. It's kind of a catch-22.

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Zainab Ismail

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I worked PRN for years and never knew about partial unemployment. This thread is really eye-opening. Makes me wonder how many other PRN workers are struggling financially when they could be getting help.

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Dmitry Popov

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Same here! Healthcare workers especially get stuck in these weird employment situations.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! Sounds like I should definitely look into filing. The job search requirement is annoying but if it helps pay my bills during slow weeks it might be worth it. I'm going to try calling Washington ESD first and if that doesn't work I'll check out that Claimyr service someone mentioned.

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Good luck! Make sure you have all your wage information ready when you apply.

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Sofia Morales

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Definitely try calling first, but Claimyr is there if you get stuck in phone tree hell.

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One more thing - make sure you understand the waiting week requirement. I think Washington eliminated it during COVID but not sure if it's back now.

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Ava Garcia

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The waiting week is still eliminated in Washington. You can potentially get benefits starting from your first week of eligibility.

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Miguel Silva

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This whole conversation makes me want to apply too. My PRN hours have been terrible lately and I'm behind on rent. Healthcare work is so unpredictable!

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You should definitely look into it! Seems like a lot of us PRN workers didn't know this was an option.

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Dmitry Popov

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Just wanted to add - keep really good records of your hours and pay if you file. Washington ESD might ask for documentation to verify your earnings.

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Good point. I'll start keeping better track of my schedules and paystubs.

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StarSailor}

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Still seems weird to me that you can be employed and unemployed at the same time but I guess that's how modern work is these days

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Zainab Ismail

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Welcome to the gig economy! Traditional employment rules don't always fit modern work arrangements.

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Final thought - even if your claim gets approved, remember that partial unemployment benefits are usually much less than full unemployment. But every little bit helps when your hours are inconsistent.

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Absolutely. Even a couple hundred dollars would make a huge difference during slow weeks.

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I work PRN at a surgical center and went through this exact process about 6 months ago when my hours dropped to almost nothing. One thing that really helped was keeping a detailed log of when I was available for shifts vs when shifts were actually offered. Washington ESD asked me about this during my phone interview - they wanted to make sure I wasn't turning down available work. Also, don't be discouraged if your first application gets flagged for review. PRN status can be confusing for the initial processing system, but once you talk to an actual person they usually understand the situation better. The partial benefits I received weren't huge but definitely helped bridge the gap during the really slow months.

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NebulaNomad

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about keeping a log of availability vs actual shifts offered. That's a smart way to document that you're not turning down work. Did you have to provide that log during your phone interview, or was it just helpful to have for reference when answering their questions?

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