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Alana Willis

Can I resign and get unemployment benefits in Washington?

I've been working at this retail job for 8 months but the working conditions are getting really bad. My manager is creating a hostile work environment and I'm thinking about quitting. Can I resign and still collect unemployment benefits from Washington ESD? I really need the income but I can't handle staying in this toxic situation much longer. What are my options?

Generally, if you quit voluntarily, you won't qualify for unemployment benefits. Washington ESD requires you to be unemployed through no fault of your own. However, there are exceptions for 'good cause' resignations like unsafe working conditions or harassment.

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What counts as good cause? My manager has been making inappropriate comments and scheduling me for impossible shifts.

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Harassment, discrimination, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job duties can qualify as good cause. You'll need documentation though.

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You need to be really careful here. I quit my last job thinking I had good cause and Washington ESD denied my claim. Make sure you have everything documented before you resign.

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Did you appeal the decision? What kind of documentation should I be collecting?

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I didn't appeal because I didn't have enough evidence. Start keeping records of incidents, emails, witness statements, anything that shows the hostile environment.

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Before you quit, try talking to HR or filing a complaint with your company. Washington ESD looks favorably on people who tried to resolve the situation first. If that doesn't work and you do resign, you'll need to prove you had no reasonable alternative.

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We don't really have HR, it's a small company. Should I document that I tried to talk to the owner about it?

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Absolutely. Any attempt to resolve the issue internally will help your case if you end up applying for unemployment.

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This is why small companies suck. No protection for employees at all.

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I was in a similar situation last year and had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to discuss my options. If you need to talk to someone there about whether your situation qualifies, I found Claimyr really helpful for actually reaching an agent. They have a service at claimyr.com that helps you get through the phone system. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. Did they help you figure out if you had good cause?

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Yeah, the Washington ESD agent was able to explain exactly what documentation I needed and walked me through the process. Much better than trying to figure it out online.

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Whatever you do, don't just walk out. That will definitely disqualify you. If you're going to resign, do it in writing and clearly state your reasons. Keep a copy of everything.

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Good point. Should I mention the specific incidents in my resignation letter?

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Yes, be specific but professional. Date, time, what happened, how it affected your ability to do your job.

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honestly the unemployment system is so messed up, even if you have good reason they'll probably deny you anyway and make you jump through hoops

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That's not necessarily true. If you have proper documentation and follow the process, good cause resignations can be approved.

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maybe but i've seen too many people get screwed over

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Another option to consider is seeing if you can get laid off instead of quitting. Sometimes if you discuss the situation with your employer, they might be willing to let you go rather than deal with potential legal issues.

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That's an interesting idea. How would I approach that conversation?

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Be honest about the situation affecting your work performance and mental health. Some employers prefer to avoid potential harassment claims.

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This worked for me when I had a similar problem. My boss agreed to lay me off and I got unemployment without any issues.

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Also consider filing a complaint with L&I about the working conditions while you're still employed. Having an official complaint on record will strengthen your case if you do resign.

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I didn't know I could do that. Will that protect me from retaliation?

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There are protections against retaliation, but honestly it still happens. Document everything if you go this route.

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Make sure you understand the waiting period too. Even if your resignation is approved for good cause, there might still be a delay before benefits start.

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How long is the waiting period usually?

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It varies but can be several weeks while they investigate your claim. Plan accordingly.

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I quit my job for good cause last year and it took forever to get approved. Had to provide witness statements, emails, everything. But it was worth it in the end.

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Did you have to go through an appeal process or were you approved initially?

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Initially denied, had to appeal. The appeal hearing was nerve-wracking but the judge understood the situation once I presented all my evidence.

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If you do decide to file for unemployment after resigning, definitely use something like Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD quickly. The sooner you can speak with an agent about your specific situation, the better they can guide you through the process.

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Is that service worth it? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim.

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For me it was. Saved hours of trying to get through on my own and the agent was really helpful with understanding the requirements.

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Whatever you decide, don't wait too long to file your claim if you do resign. There are time limits and you want to get the process started as soon as possible.

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How soon after resigning should I file?

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File as soon as possible after your last day of work. Don't wait to see if you can find another job first.

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Just want to add - keep records of everything even after you file your claim. Washington ESD might ask for additional documentation weeks later.

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Good advice. I'll start documenting everything now just in case.

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Have you considered consulting with an employment attorney? If the situation is as bad as you describe, you might have other legal options beyond just unemployment benefits.

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I hadn't thought about that. Would that affect my unemployment claim if I pursue legal action?

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Not necessarily, but it's something to discuss with both an attorney and Washington ESD to understand your options.

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been there, toxic managers make life hell. document everything and don't let them push you to quit without a fight

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Thanks for the support. It's been really affecting my mental health.

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Remember that even if you resign for good cause, you'll still need to meet all other unemployment requirements - actively searching for work, reporting your job search activities, etc.

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Right, I understand I'd still need to look for work. What are the current job search requirements?

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You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep detailed records. Check the Washington ESD website for the most current requirements.

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If you do resign, make sure your resignation letter is very clear about it being for good cause. Don't make it sound like you just didn't like the job.

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Should I mention specific laws or regulations that were being violated?

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If you know specific violations, yes. But focus more on how the conditions made it impossible for you to continue working.

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Also consider that if Washington ESD approves your claim for resignation with good cause, your former employer might contest it. Be prepared for that possibility.

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What happens if they contest it?

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There would be a hearing where both sides present their case. Having solid documentation becomes even more important.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Just make sure you explore all your options before making any final decisions. Sometimes situations can be resolved without having to quit.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I have a lot to think about and some steps to take before making any decisions.

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One more thing - if you do end up needing to contact Washington ESD about your claim, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really does work. I used it when I had questions about my own good cause resignation and actually got through to talk to someone.

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I'll definitely look into that if I need to speak with them directly. Thanks!

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The video demo they have shows exactly how it works. Much better than spending hours on hold.

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I went through something similar last year with a hostile manager situation. The key thing Washington ESD looks for is whether you made reasonable efforts to resolve the issue before resigning. Start documenting everything now - dates, times, what was said or done, any witnesses. Also, try to address it with your manager or whoever is above them first, and document that conversation too. If you do end up resigning, make sure your resignation letter clearly states it's due to the hostile work environment and references specific incidents. The good cause standard is pretty strict, but with proper documentation showing you had no reasonable alternative, it's definitely possible to get approved. Don't give up hope - your mental health and safety matter.

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