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thank you all for this info! i was confused about the same thing. starting a new job in june with higher pay and was wondering if i should wait to file until july if i get laid off again lol. good to know about both calculation methods!
@OP - One last tip: After you file, you can see which base year period they used in your determination letter. If for some reason they don't automatically use the alternative base year when it would benefit you (which sometimes happens due to system errors), you can appeal the monetary determination within 30 days. Definitely worth doing if there's a significant difference in your wages between the two potential base year periods.
Anyone else notice how they make these programs IMPOSSIBLE to find out about?? Almost like they don't want people to actually use them! My cousin works at ESD and even she says they don't advertise the good programs because they'd be overwhelmed with applications. The whole system is designed to be frustrating so people give up.
I understand your frustration, but I think it's more about understaffing than deliberate gatekeeping. When I finally got into the Worker Retraining Program, the counselor told me they had only 3 people processing applications for the entire county. They're overwhelmed but the staff genuinely want to help - they just can't keep up with demand. That said, I agree they could do a MUCH better job making information about these programs accessible.
Thank you everyone for all this info! I had no idea there were so many programs available. I'm going to: 1. Try to get through to ESD directly about the CAT program 2. Make an appointment with WorkSource and specifically ask for an individual career counselor 3. Look into that Worker Retraining program since my factory skills aren't getting me anywhere I'll update this thread once I make some progress. Fingers crossed something works out because my savings are almost gone and I'm getting desperate.
one thing i havent seen mentioned here - if your contract has any kind of severance or final project payment coming later, make sure you report that correctly. i messed this up and ended up with an overpayment notice for $2,300 that im still paying back. if ur not sure how to report something call and ask first!!!!
One last piece of advice based on recent experience: When you file, be very careful about the "able and available" questions. ESD has been extra strict about this lately. If you say you're not available for full-time work for ANY reason (childcare issues, school schedule, transportation limitations, etc.) they'll likely deny your claim or at minimum send it to adjudication. Also, make sure you're checking your ESD account messages regularly after applying. Sometimes they request additional information with short deadlines, and if you miss those, your claim gets delayed substantially. I recommend checking daily until you're receiving payments reliably.
My sister works in HR and she says all they care about is if you had been warned before about the same issue and did it anyway. Single mistakes almost never count as misconduct unless its something super serious like theft or violence. Just make sure when they ask you questions you don't accidentally admit to anything that sounds intentional.
I see a lot of comments here, but I want to clarify something important: Under ESD rules, a single unintentional policy violation typically does NOT constitute misconduct unless it caused significant harm or was extremely negligent. If you're denied benefits, you have 30 days to file an appeal. The appeal hearing is completely fresh - the Administrative Law Judge doesn't consider ESD's previous decision. Based on what you've described, you have a strong case, especially with no prior disciplinary actions. Just be patient with the process and keep documenting everything.
Thank you for this clarification. I got a letter today saying they need more information before making a decision. They're requesting documentation of the incident from my employer, which actually makes me feel better because it means they're not just taking their word for it. I appreciate everyone's help here - this has been so stressful!
Yuki Kobayashi
To add to my earlier comment, there's a common misconception that unemployment can work like gap coverage for any income interruption. The key requirements for UI eligibility are: 1. You must be separated from your employer OR have a significant, ongoing reduction in hours 2. The separation/reduction can't be your fault (quitting without good cause doesn't qualify) 3. You must be able and available to accept suitable work immediately 4. You must be actively seeking work each week Since you were still employed and just temporarily unable to work due to illness, criteria #1 and #3 weren't met. For future reference, Washington state has several income protection programs with different purposes: - Unemployment Insurance: For job loss/reduction not your fault - Workers' Compensation: For work-related injuries/illnesses - Paid Family & Medical Leave: For extended health issues or family care - Short-term disability insurance: Private insurance for temporary health issues (not state-run) Now that you're back at work, none of these would apply retroactively for your situation, unfortunately.
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QuantumQuester
I wonder if your employer offers any emergency assistance programs? Some companies have hardship funds for employees in situations like this. Might be worth asking HR if there's anything like that available. Doesn't solve the systemic problem but could help with your immediate financial situation.
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Ethan Moore
•That's a really good suggestion I hadn't thought of. I'll check with HR tomorrow. We're a medium-sized company so maybe there's something available. Thank you!
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