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I wouldnt trust the zero balance until you get confirmation in WRITING from ESD! My waiver got approved then REVERSED two months later and they started collections again and added penalties!!!! get everything in writing and dont spend that refund $$$ until your 100% sure its final
Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare! Do you know why they reversed the decision? That makes me really nervous now. I'll definitely ask for written confirmation when I call.
To address the concern about waiver reversals - this is extremely rare and typically only happens in cases where fraud was later discovered or if the waiver was clearly issued in error (like if you didn't actually have an overpayment to begin with). For most people who legitimately qualified for a pandemic overpayment waiver, once approved, it's final. However, it's always good practice to: 1. Request a formal waiver approval letter (they don't always send these automatically) 2. Print and save screenshots of your zero balance 3. Keep all communication with ESD regarding your waiver 4. If you do receive a refund, save the documentation that came with it The vast majority of approved waivers remain approved permanently - but documentation is your best protection.
Thank you so much for the reassurance. I'll definitely follow all of these steps. I legitimately qualified for the waiver (it was due to one of those confusing pandemic rule changes that affected so many people), so hopefully I won't have any issues with reversal. I'll make sure to get everything in writing.
I'm dealing with this RIGHT NOW! Had taxes taken out all last year, thought everything was fine. Then in February 2025 got a notice saying I had an overpayment from weeks in August 2024 because my employer contested my claim saying I quit instead of being laid off. Now I owe $2,750 back even though I spent that money months ago on rent and food. Is anyone here good at writing appeals? I have 30 days to respond and I'm panicking!!!
For an appeal, focus on documenting why you believed you were laid off rather than quit. Gather any emails, texts, or written communications from your employer. Appeal forms are on the ESD website under the "Submit an Appeal" section. You'll need your determination letter details. Be specific about dates and facts, not emotional arguments. If you need help, the Unemployment Law Project offers free assistance with appeals: https://unemploymentlawproject.org/
To wrap up the original question: Tax withholding only addresses the tax liability on legitimate benefits. It won't protect you from overpayment determinations. For peace of mind, I recommend: 1. Keep detailed records of all weekly claims and job search activities for at least 3 years 2. Save copies of any ESD correspondence (take screenshots of online notices) 3. Set aside a small emergency fund if possible to cover potential overpayments 4. Make sure your wife responds immediately to any ESD requests or questionnaires Most people who diligently follow the rules never experience overpayment issues, but having documentation ready just in case is always smart.
Sorry about your situation pal but I'm confused about something. You said you were "overqualified" and "proved your worth" but then you also said you resigned to avoid a "toxic environment with drug users in new construction"? That part doesn't make sense with the pay reduction story. Were you in construction? Was that why the pay was lower? The commissioner might have been confused by mixed explanations too. Just saying you might want to keep your story straighter for the judicial review.
Sorry for the confusion. To clarify: I moved to work at a new location for the same company. When I couldn't afford to stay at that new location due to the pay cut, I considered going back to my previous jobs in my hometown (which were in construction), but those previous employers weren't willing to rehire me because I had left them to take this opportunity. And yes, part of why I had wanted to leave those previous jobs was the work environment. The pay reduction issue is the main reason I had to quit the job I relocated for.
One more critical thing - for judicial review, you need to file in the county where you lived at the time of application OR in Thurston County. The filing fee is around $240, but you can request a fee waiver if you're low income (use the GR 34 form). Make sure to: 1. Name the correct parties (Commissioner and ESD must be named) 2. Properly serve all parties (you need to serve the Commissioner, ESD, and the Attorney General's office) 3. Include the complete agency record The standard of review is super important - the court will only overturn if: - Decision is outside the agency's authority - Decision is based on an error of law - Decision is not supported by substantial evidence - Decision is arbitrary and capricious Focus on the error of law aspect - specifically that the Commissioner failed to properly apply WAC 192-150-120 regarding substantial reduction in pay. With a 42.8% reduction, you're well above the 25% threshold that typically constitutes good cause.
Thank you so much for the additional details. I'll look up the GR 34 form today as I definitely can't afford the filing fee right now. I'll file in the county where I lived when I applied. I wasn't aware I needed to serve so many parties - that's really helpful information. I'll focus my argument specifically on the error of law regarding WAC 192-150-120 and the 42.8% pay reduction. This gives me a much clearer path forward!
Cassandra Moon
dont forget to check if you qualify for pandemic benefits those are still happening i think
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Zane Hernandez
•Pandemic benefits (PUA, PEUC, etc.) all ended back in 2021. There are currently no pandemic-related unemployment extensions available in 2025. All federal enhancement programs have expired.
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Nora Brooks
Hey just checking in - did u have any luck with WorkSource or finding some temp work? The construction industry usually picks up in spring so maybe things will get better soon???
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Jayden Reed
•Thanks for checking in! I had an appointment with WorkSource yesterday and they were actually pretty helpful. They connected me with a staffing agency that specializes in construction and they might have a 3-month project starting next week. It's not ideal but would definitely help with bills while I continue looking for something permanent. Also applied for SNAP benefits yesterday. Trying to stay positive!
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