Union apprentice refusing distant assignment (Pasco) - Will ESD deny unemployment benefits?
My situation is complicated and I need advice asap. I'm a laborer's union apprentice out of Seattle local, and my dispatcher just TOLD me (not asked) that I'm assigned to a project in Pasco for 9 months. I have three kids under 10 and my wife works night shifts as a nurse - there's no way I can relocate across state for that long without completely disrupting my family. I know the union contract has something about reasonable travel distance unless mutually agreed upon, and this definitely wasn't agreed upon. If I refuse this assignment and go back to the hall to wait for something closer to home, will ESD deny me unemployment benefits during the wait? Has anyone dealt with something similar with union dispatches and ESD? I don't want to be labeled as refusing suitable work, but this Pasco assignment would literally require abandoning my childcare responsibilities.
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Scarlett Forster
They can't deny u benefits as long as you have good cause. Having to move away from your family is definitely good cause! Just make sure u document everything when you talk to the hall.
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Cole Roush
•Thanks. Have you actually been through this with ESD? I'm worried they'll just see it as refusing work and automatically disqualify me.
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Arnav Bengali
I worked for ESD for 6 years and handled union claims regularly. This situation falls under "good cause" for refusing work IF you can document that the distance exceeds what's reasonable in your union contract. The collective bargaining agreement terms will be considered by ESD adjudicators. You need to: 1. Get a copy of your union contract showing distance limitations 2. Document that you weren't asked but told to take the assignment 3. Write down your childcare responsibilities in detail 4. File your initial claim immediately after refusing the assignment 5. Be clear in your application that you're available for suitable work within the contractual distance ESD should assign an adjudicator to review this case specifically. Don't just say "it was too far" - cite the specific contract language that protects you.
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Cole Roush
•This is extremely helpful, thank you! I'll pull out my contract tonight and find the specific language about travel distance. Do you know approximately how long the adjudication process might take? I'm worried about how long I'll be without income.
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Arnav Bengali
•Adjudication can take 3-6 weeks currently, though timing varies. Make sure to continue filing your weekly claims during this period, answering truthfully about refusing work but explaining why in the comments section each time. This creates a consistent record for the adjudicator.
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Sayid Hassan
When I was in carpenters union they tried sending me to Yakima from Bellevue - ESD approved my benefits because in my contract it specified 45 miles maximum travel distance unless I agreed to more!!! MAKE SURE you get that contract language when you talk to ESD and don't let them bully you. The union hall might give you a hard time but stand your ground - your family comes first!!!
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Cole Roush
•That's good to hear. I'll definitely stand my ground with the hall. Did ESD question you a lot about why you refused?
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Sayid Hassan
•They asked a bunch of questions about the distance, contract terms, if I had been offered any closer jobs, etc. The most important thing was having that contract language ready - print it out! The adjudicator asked for the specific section and page number so be ready!!
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Rachel Tao
You need to be really careful here. The key factor is whether your union collective bargaining agreement specifically limits the distance they can send you without your consent. If it does, you'll need to provide documentation of that provision to ESD. If it doesn't, ESD might consider this refusing suitable work. In my experience, you should: 1. Request the dispatch refusal in writing, citing family hardship 2. Get documentation from the union about your status after refusal 3. Apply for unemployment immediately 4. Be prepared to explain that you're still available for suitable work within a reasonable distance When ESD reviews your case, they'll look at the specific wording in your union agreement. If there's nothing specifying distance limitations, they'll apply the standard "reasonable commute" guidelines, which can be up to 1 hour each way depending on your occupation.
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Cole Roush
•Thanks for the detailed response. I know there's language about distance in our contract, but I need to review it again to find the exact wording. Would it help to get a letter from my wife's employer confirming her night shift schedule to prove the childcare hardship?
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Rachel Tao
•Absolutely. Get as much documentation as possible - wife's work schedule, any childcare arrangements that would be disrupted, etc. The more evidence you have of genuine hardship, the stronger your case. Also, when you speak with your business agent at the hall, take detailed notes of the conversation and request written confirmation of your status after refusing the dispatch.
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Derek Olson
This happened to my cousn who was in IBEW. He refused a job in Moses Lake and got DENIED benefits!!! ESD said he should've taken it even though it was 170 miles from his house! He fought it for MONTHS and eventually won on appeal but had no money coming in. The system is rigged against workers!!
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Cole Roush
•That's exactly what I'm afraid of. Did he have to get a lawyer for the appeal? I can't afford to go months without income.
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Danielle Mays
Hey, just throwing this out there - if you're having trouble reaching ESD to discuss your situation (which you probably will since they're still understaffed), you might want to try Claimyr. I was in a similar situation with a union dispatch issue and spent days trying to reach ESD. Claimyr got me connected to an ESD agent in about 25 minutes. Their service basically holds your place in line so you don't have to keep calling and getting disconnected. You can see how it works in their video demo: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 and their website is claimyr.com. Saved me a ton of stress when I needed to explain my specific situation to an actual person at ESD.
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Cole Roush
•I hadn't heard of this before - thanks for sharing. Did you find that talking directly with an agent was more helpful than just submitting everything online?
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Danielle Mays
•100% yes. The online system doesn't handle nuanced situations well. The agent I spoke with explained exactly what documentation I needed and added notes to my claim about my specific circumstances. Made a huge difference in how my case was handled.
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Roger Romero
have you actually checked your union contract? some unions have different rules for apprentices vs journeymen. my bro is in operators union and apprentices have different dispatch rules. just saying dont assume you have protection until you read the fine print
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Cole Roush
•That's a good point I hadn't considered. I'll check if there are separate rules for apprentices. Thanks for bringing this up.
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Rachel Tao
After reviewing more comments, I want to add one important point: when you file your weekly claims while in adjudication, make sure to answer "Yes" to the question about whether you refused any work. Then provide a clear, consistent explanation in the comments section each time. If you answer "No" to refusing work but then tell the adjudicator you refused the Pasco assignment, they might flag it as misrepresentation, which creates a much bigger problem.
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Cole Roush
•Thanks for the warning! I definitely don't want to make things worse by answering inconsistently. I'll make sure to be honest about refusing the work but explain the legitimate reasons in detail.
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Scarlett Forster
u should also call ur state rep!! my friend got stuck with esd issues and her state rep helped push it thru faster!
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Arnav Bengali
•This is excellent advice. Your state representative's office can often help expedite ESD issues, especially in cases where there are complicating factors like union contracts. Most have staff specifically assigned to help constituents with state agency issues.
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Sayid Hassan
IMPORTANT: I forgot to mention - make sure when you file your claim you include that you're in a UNION and provide your local number!! There's a specific section in the application for union members, and it changes how they process your claim. I almost missed this part and it would have caused huge problems.
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Cole Roush
•Thank you! I didn't know there was a specific section for union members. Definitely going to make sure I fill that out correctly.
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