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Seraphina Delan

Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment if my company moves location?

My employer just announced they're relocating our office from Seattle to Spokane in two months. The commute would be over 4 hours each way for me, which is obviously impossible. I've been with this company for 3 years and they're not offering any relocation assistance or remote work options. Can I file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD if I quit because of this move? I'm worried they'll deny my claim since technically I'm the one leaving the job. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Yes, this is called 'good cause' for quitting in Washington state. When an employer relocates and it creates an unreasonable commute, you can qualify for UI benefits. You'll need to document the distance and show you tried to work something out with your employer first.

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That's a relief! What kind of documentation should I gather? I have emails showing I asked about remote work and they said no.

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Keep all those emails! Also document the mileage between locations, your current commute time vs. the new one, and any costs like gas or wear on your vehicle. Washington ESD will want to see you made reasonable efforts to continue working.

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The general rule is that if the new location would require more than a 50% increase in commute time or distance, it's considered good cause. 4 hours each way definitely qualifies! Just make sure you don't quit until you've exhausted all options with your employer.

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50%? I thought it was any significant increase that made it unreasonable. My sister had to quit when her job moved 30 minutes further and she got approved.

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You're right, there's no exact percentage rule. Washington ESD looks at the total impact on your ability to work, including commute time, costs, and family obligations. Each case is individual.

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I went through this exact situation last year when my company moved from Tacoma to Olympia. The key is documenting everything and showing you tried to make it work. I actually tried the commute for two weeks before quitting, which helped my case with Washington ESD.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the income gap while they decide.

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Mine took about 3 weeks to get through adjudication. I had to provide a lot of documentation about the distance, my attempts to negotiate with my employer, and why the commute was impossible for me personally. But I did get approved!

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3 weeks isn't bad! I've been waiting 6 weeks for my regular claim to get through adjudication. The phone lines are impossible to get through to check on status.

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It's legitimate - they just help you navigate the phone system to reach an actual Washington ESD representative. I was skeptical too but it actually worked when I couldn't get through on my own.

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Make sure you understand the job search requirements too. Even with good cause for quitting, you'll still need to be actively looking for work and logging your job search activities. Don't assume it's automatic approval.

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Good point. Do I need to start the job search immediately or only after I file the claim?

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You need to be able and available for work from the week you file your claim. That means actively searching and documenting your efforts in WorkSourceWA if required.

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ugh the whole system is so complicated. why cant they just make it simple - company moves far away, you get benefits. instead its all this documentation and proving stuff

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I understand the frustration, but the documentation protects everyone. It prevents fraud while ensuring people with legitimate reasons get the help they need.

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i guess but when you need money for rent you dont want to wait weeks for them to decide if 4 hours commute is 'reasonable' or not

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One thing to consider - have you looked into whether your company is required to offer severance or notice pay for this kind of relocation? Sometimes that can help bridge the gap while your UI claim processes.

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They mentioned 30 days notice but no severance. I'm not sure if Washington state has any requirements for this situation.

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Washington doesn't require severance for relocations, but if they offered 30 days notice, make sure you understand how that affects your UI claim timing. You might want to coordinate when you actually stop working.

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Similar thing happened to my brother in Oregon last year... oh wait, this is about Washington. Never mind, different rules probably.

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Actually, most states have similar 'good cause' provisions for employer relocations, but the specific requirements can vary. Best to focus on Washington ESD rules for this situation.

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Update: I talked to HR today and they confirmed no remote work options and no relocation assistance. They said my last day would be the Friday before the office move. Should I file my UI claim immediately after my last day?

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Yes, file as soon as possible after your last day of work. There's no benefit to waiting, and you want to get the process started. Make sure you have all your documentation ready when you file.

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Definitely file right away. And if you run into issues or need to speak with someone at Washington ESD, remember that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. Sometimes adjudication goes smoother when you can actually talk to an agent.

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Make sure you also understand the waiting week. Even if you qualify, there might be a delay before payments start, so plan your finances accordingly.

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Waiting week? I thought Washington eliminated that during COVID?

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You're correct - Washington eliminated the waiting week. Benefits should start from the first week you file and are eligible, as long as your claim is approved.

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Document EVERYTHING. I mean everything. Emails, mileage calculations, gas costs, time estimates. I've seen too many people lose their appeals because they didn't have enough proof of why the move made the job impossible.

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I'm starting a folder now. Should I also document my current commute costs vs what the new ones would be?

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Absolutely! Show the financial impact too. If the new commute would cost you $500 more per month in gas and wear on your car, that's relevant to whether it's reasonable to expect you to make that commute.

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Just want to add - don't let them pressure you into 'trying' the new location for a few weeks if it's clearly impossible. You have the right to quit with good cause when an employer relocates unreasonably far.

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Good point. Though sometimes actually trying the commute for a short time can strengthen your case if you document why it didn't work.

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True, but only if it's safe and financially feasible to try. 4 hours each way could be dangerous depending on weather and traffic conditions.

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I'm dealing with something similar but my company is only moving 45 minutes further away. Reading this thread makes me think I might not qualify since it's not as extreme as your situation.

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It depends on your specific circumstances. 45 minutes might be reasonable for some people but not others. Factors like public transportation, childcare arrangements, and overall commute time matter.

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Exactly. If that 45 minutes turns your total commute from 30 minutes to 1 hour 15 minutes each way, that's a significant change. Plus consider costs and family obligations.

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Update on my adjudication situation - I finally got through using that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier. Turns out my case was stuck because they needed one more document I didn't know about. Sometimes you really do need to talk to an actual person!

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What document did they need? I want to make sure I have everything ready when I file.

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In my case it was verification of my job search activities, but yours might be different since you're quitting for good cause. The agent was able to tell me exactly what was missing though.

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Has anyone here had to appeal a good cause determination? I'm curious what that process looks like in case the initial decision doesn't go well.

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Yes, I helped someone with an appeal for a similar situation. You get a hearing with an administrative law judge where you can present your evidence and explain your situation. Having good documentation is crucial.

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The appeal process can take several weeks or months, so it's really important to get the initial decision right by providing complete documentation upfront.

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Good luck with your claim! Sounds like you have a solid case with the 4-hour commute situation. Just make sure you follow all the proper steps and document everything thoroughly.

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Thank you! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about the process now.

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One last thing - make sure you understand how your final paycheck and any accrued vacation pay might affect your UI benefits timing. Sometimes there are coordination issues.

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Oh good point. They mentioned they'll pay out my vacation time with my final check. Will that delay my benefits?

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Vacation payout is usually considered wages for the period it represents, which could affect when your benefits start. You'll need to report this when you file your claim so Washington ESD can calculate properly.

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This whole situation sucks but at least Washington has reasonable good cause protections. Some states make it nearly impossible to get benefits if you quit for any reason.

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I'm definitely grateful for that. The stress of potentially losing income on top of losing my job would have been overwhelming.

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Just remember that even with good cause, you still need to meet all the other UI requirements - work history, wage requirements, job search, etc. Good cause just covers the reason for separation.

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Right, I should be fine on the work history and wage requirements since I've been employed full-time for 3 years. The job search part will be new for me though.

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The job search requirements aren't too bad if you stay organized. Just keep good records of where you apply and any networking activities. WorkSourceWA can help with resources too.

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Wishing you the best with this situation. It's never easy when employers make these kinds of decisions that force employees to choose between their job and their life circumstances.

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Thanks for all the support and advice everyone. I'll make sure to update this thread once I file my claim and hear back from Washington ESD.

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Mei Lin

I went through a similar situation about 8 months ago when my employer relocated from Bellevue to Yakima. The key thing that helped my case was creating a detailed cost-benefit analysis showing not just the time impact (my commute would have gone from 45 minutes to 3+ hours each way) but also the financial burden - gas, vehicle wear, potential lodging costs, etc. I calculated that the new commute would have cost me nearly $800 more per month and 25+ hours of additional drive time per week. Washington ESD approved my claim in about 2 weeks once I provided all the documentation. Your 4-hour each way situation is even more extreme, so you should have a strong case as long as you document everything thoroughly. Make sure to include any family obligations or other factors that make the move unreasonable for your specific situation.

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That's really helpful to know about the cost-benefit analysis approach! I hadn't thought about breaking down all the financial impacts like that. $800 more per month is huge - that would probably eat up a significant portion of someone's take-home pay. Did you use any specific format or template for calculating those costs, or just create your own breakdown? I want to make sure I'm being thorough with my documentation.

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