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Daryl Bright

Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment if I refuse to relocate for work?

My employer offered me a position at their facility in Spokane but I live in Seattle and can't relocate due to family obligations. They said if I don't take the relocation they'll consider it a voluntary quit. Would this disqualify me from collecting unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've been with the company for 6 years and this came out of nowhere. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Generally speaking, if you refuse suitable work you can be disqualified from UI benefits. However, relocation requirements have some exceptions. The key question is whether the distance is considered 'reasonable' by Washington ESD standards. Seattle to Spokane is definitely not a reasonable commute.

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That's what I was hoping to hear. Do you know what distance they consider unreasonable? This would be about a 280 mile move.

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Washington ESD typically considers anything over 50 miles or 1 hour commute time as potentially unreasonable, but they look at individual circumstances too.

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You should be fine refusing that relocation. I had a similar situation where my company wanted me to move from Tacoma to Bellingham and Washington ESD ruled in my favor. They said the relocation distance was unreasonable and I qualified for benefits.

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How long did it take for them to make that determination? Did you have to go through adjudication?

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Yeah it went to adjudication for about 3 weeks. I had to provide documentation about the job offer and explain why I couldn't relocate. Family obligations were definitely a valid reason.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work to get through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it worked for me. I was tired of getting hung up on after waiting hours. The service connects you when an agent becomes available instead of you having to keep calling.

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I'm skeptical of services like that but honestly the phone system is so broken I might try anything at this point.

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Wait, are you sure they can force you to relocate? That seems wrong. Can they just change your job location like that without agreement?

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Employers can generally change work locations if it's not specified in your contract. But for unemployment purposes, if the change is unreasonable (like cross-state) you can refuse without penalty.

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That's so messed up. Companies just do whatever they want these days.

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Document EVERYTHING about this situation. Save the relocation offer email, any communication about the consequences of refusing, and write down your reasons for not being able to move. Washington ESD will want all this during adjudication.

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Good point. I have the email but should I also document my family situation that prevents the move?

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Absolutely. Caring for elderly parents, spouse's job, kids in school - all valid reasons that Washington ESD considers when evaluating reasonableness.

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UGH this happened to my friend and Washington ESD initially denied her claim! She had to appeal and it took MONTHS to get resolved. The system is so broken.

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. Did she eventually win the appeal?

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Yeah she won but lost months of benefits during the appeals process. So frustrating.

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Don't panic yet. The initial adjudication process has gotten better. Just make sure you clearly explain the unreasonable distance and your family obligations when you file.

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Should I file right away or wait until they officially terminate me?

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File as soon as your last day of work. Don't wait around - you want to get the process started.

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I would definitely try to get someone on the phone at Washington ESD before filing to understand exactly how they'll view your situation. The adjudication process can be unpredictable.

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I've been trying to call for days but can never get through. The hold times are insane.

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. Saved me hours of calling and redialing.

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Make sure you understand the difference between 'suitable work' and your current job too. Just because they're offering you A job doesn't mean you have to take ANY job if it involves unreasonable conditions.

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Right, and this would technically be a different position even though it's the same company.

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Exactly. Different location, probably different cost of living, different everything. That matters for the suitability determination.

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Have you looked into whether your company offers any relocation assistance? Sometimes that can affect how Washington ESD views the reasonableness.

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They mentioned some relocation money but honestly it wouldn't cover the actual costs of moving my whole family and finding new housing.

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Even with relocation assistance, if the personal circumstances make it unreasonable, you should still qualify for benefits.

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I'm dealing with something similar but it's just 60 miles away. Still seems unreasonable to me when I'd have to drive 2+ hours each way every day.

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60 miles could go either way depending on traffic patterns and your specific situation. Definitely worth filing if they force the issue.

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Yeah I'm documenting everything just in case.

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Check your employee handbook too. Some companies have policies about reasonable relocation distances that might help your case.

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Good idea, I'll dig through the handbook tonight.

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Just wanted to add - when I used Claimyr to speak with Washington ESD about my relocation refusal situation, the agent was really helpful in explaining exactly what documentation I needed. Made the whole process much smoother.

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How much does that service cost? I'm desperate enough to try it.

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It's worth it when you consider the alternative is spending entire days trying to get through. Check out their site for current info.

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Whatever you do, don't just ghost them or no-show. Make sure there's a clear paper trail showing you declined the relocation offer for valid reasons.

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Absolutely, I'm planning to send a formal written response explaining my reasons.

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The good news is Washington state generally has pretty worker-friendly unemployment policies compared to other states. If your refusal is reasonable, you should be okay.

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That's reassuring to hear. I've been stressed about this for weeks.

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Just be prepared for some back and forth during adjudication. It's normal even when you have a strong case.

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Document the cost of living differences between Seattle and Spokane too. That could be relevant to the reasonableness determination.

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Interesting point. Housing costs are definitely different between the two cities.

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My sister went through this exact scenario 2 years ago - company wanted her to move from Vancouver WA to somewhere in eastern Washington. She refused, filed for unemployment, and had no issues getting approved.

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That gives me hope! Did she have to provide a lot of documentation?

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Just the job offer and a written explanation of why she couldn't relocate. Pretty straightforward.

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Keep in mind that if you're approved for benefits, you'll still need to meet all the job search requirements. Don't assume you can just coast.

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Of course, I'm already updating my resume and starting to look around.

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One more thing - make sure you understand your company's severance policy. Sometimes refusing relocation triggers different terms than a regular layoff.

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I need to check on that. I hadn't thought about how it might affect severance.

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Bottom line: Seattle to Spokane is clearly unreasonable. Document everything, file when your employment ends, and be prepared to explain your situation during adjudication. You should be fine.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. I feel much more confident about this situation now.

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Good luck! Come back and update us on how it goes.

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