Social Security survivor benefits vs. combining my own SS with husband's - confused about maximizing widow benefits
I'm at a crossroads and completely confused about my Social Security options. I'm 64 and lost my husband in February 2023. I started receiving widow's benefits when I turned 62, which has been helpful but I'm struggling financially. Recently, my neighbor mentioned she's receiving both her own Social Security AND a portion of her deceased husband's benefit. She says it's some kind of combination benefit that gives her more money each month. Is this actually possible? I thought you had to choose either your own benefit OR your spouse's, not both. I worked for 31 years as a nurse before becoming my husband's full-time caregiver during his illness. I'm wondering if I've been missing out on money I could be receiving. Does anyone know if there's a way to collect both my own SS retirement AND some portion of my late husband's benefit? I don't want to mess up what I'm already getting, but every dollar counts right now.
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Vince Eh
Your neighbor is probably confused about what she's actually receiving. You can't receive BOTH your own benefit AND a spouse/widow benefit simultaneously - that's not how Social Security works. What likely happened is she switched from one to the other. Here's what you CAN do: If your own retirement benefit would be higher than your current widow's benefit, you could switch to your own benefit when you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA). Or if your widow's benefit would be higher at YOUR FRA than your own retirement benefit, you could switch to your own smaller benefit now and then switch to the higher widow's benefit at your FRA. I'd recommend making an appointment with SSA to review your options. Based on your work history as a nurse for 31 years, you might have a decent benefit on your own record.
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Peyton Clarke
•Thank you for explaining this! I'm still a bit confused though. My husband's benefit was quite a bit higher than what mine would be (he was an engineer). If I'm already taking the widow's benefit, does it make any sense to switch to my own smaller benefit and then back to widow's later? That seems like I'd just be getting less money in the meantime. Is there some advantage to doing that?
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Sophia Gabriel
My mom did something like this!!! She collected her own SS at 62 (reduced amount) and then when she hit full retirement age she switched to my dad's survivor benefit which was higher. I think that might be what your neighbor did. You should check with SS though because i think it depends on when you were born.
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Vince Eh
•Yes, this is a valid strategy in some cases. But since the original poster is already collecting widow's benefits, her situation is different. She'd need to evaluate whether switching would actually benefit her financially.
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Tobias Lancaster
There's a specific strategy that might be what your neighbor is referring to, but it's often misunderstood. You cannot receive both benefits in full simultaneously, but you might be able to optimize your situation. Here's how it works: If you haven't reached your Full Retirement Age (FRA) yet, you have options. For someone born in 1959, FRA is 66 and 10 months. Since you're already collecting widow's benefits early (reduced amount), you could potentially: 1. Continue with reduced widow's benefits until FRA, then switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher 2. Switch to your own retirement benefit now (also reduced), allowing your widow's benefit to grow until FRA, then switch back to the higher widow's benefit The second strategy often confuses people into thinking they're getting "both" when really they're just strategically switching between the two. I highly recommend contacting SSA directly to review your specific earnings record and benefit amounts. They can calculate exactly which strategy would maximize your lifetime benefits.
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Peyton Clarke
•This makes more sense now, thank you. I didn't realize my widow's benefit could grow if I switch to my own for a while. I've been trying to call SSA for weeks but just get disconnected or have to wait for hours. Is there a better way to speak with someone who can help me figure out the numbers?
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Ezra Beard
The SSA is IMPOSSIBLE to get through to!!! I spent THREE WEEKS trying to talk to someone about my disability application. They'll just hang up on you when they're too busy which is ALWAYS. It's ridiculous that they expect elderly people to wait on hold for 3+ hours!!! A friend told me about a service called Claimyr that got me through to SSA in 20 minutes instead of hours. Check out their video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or go to claimyr.com. Seriously saved my sanity when dealing with this widow benefit mess.
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Peyton Clarke
•Thank you for this suggestion! I'll definitely look into it. I've been so frustrated trying to reach someone. Did they help you resolve your issue when you finally got through?
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Statiia Aarssizan
my sister was in your situation last year and what she did was switch from the widow benefit to her own ss at 64 and she said it was more money for her. but everyones situation is different. good luck!
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Reginald Blackwell
•This is actually incorrect advice for most people. Switching FROM widow's benefits TO your own retirement earlier than FRA usually results in permanently reduced benefits. The optimal strategy depends entirely on the specific benefit amounts and age. Please don't make benefit decisions based on what worked for someone else without consulting SSA about your specific situation.
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Reginald Blackwell
There's a lot of confusion in this thread, so let me clarify: You CANNOT receive both your own retirement benefit AND your widow's benefit in full at the same time. What you CAN do is receive the higher of the two. However, there is a special claiming strategy that might help maximize your benefits: 1. If you're receiving reduced widow's benefits now (because you claimed before FRA), you can switch to your own retirement benefit at any point if that would be higher. 2. Alternatively, if your own benefit at age 70 would be higher than your current widow's benefit, you could switch to your own retirement now (also reduced), let your own benefit grow with delayed retirement credits until 70, then claim your own higher benefit. But this is highly dependent on your specific earnings record and your late husband's benefit amount. The only way to know for sure is to speak with SSA directly and have them calculate the projections for each scenario. As a nurse with 31 years of work, you likely have a substantial benefit on your own record, so this analysis is definitely worth doing.
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Peyton Clarke
•Thank you so much for explaining this clearly. I'm going to try contacting SSA this week to get the specific numbers for my case. It sounds like I might be leaving money on the table by not exploring all my options!
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Aria Khan
when my husband died i just took his benefit cause it was bigger than mine would ever be. nobody told me about switching back and forth stuff. now im 72 and probably missed out on thousands. the system is so complicated on purpose i think
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Sophia Gabriel
•Same thing happened to my aunt!!! The SS people don't explain all your options unless you specifically ask the right questions. It's like they want to keep the money rather than help seniors get what they deserve!
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Ezra Beard
Used that Claimyr service I mentioned and FINALLY got through to SSA today. The rep confirmed what others here are saying - you CAN'T get both benefits at the same time. BUT there's a strategy where you can switch between them to maximize. For me, it made sense to take my own benefit at 62 (already did) and then switch to survivor benefits at my FRA. For you it might be different - you need to talk to them about YOUR specific numbers because it's all based on your work history, when your husband died, his benefit amount, etc. SO many factors!
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Peyton Clarke
•I just tried Claimyr this morning and got through to SSA in about 15 minutes! The agent ran all the calculations and it turns out I should stay on widow's benefits until my FRA, then switch to my own retirement at that point. It will give me about $340 more per month than what I'm getting now. Thank you all so much for your help!
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Vince Eh
Glad you got the information you needed! Just to summarize for anyone else reading this thread: 1. You cannot receive both your own and widow's benefits simultaneously 2. You can strategically switch between them at different ages to maximize your total lifetime payout 3. The optimal strategy depends on your specific earnings record, your age, and your deceased spouse's benefit amount 4. Always consult directly with SSA about your specific situation rather than relying on what worked for someone else This is why it's so important to get personalized advice from SSA rather than going by what neighbors or friends tell you about their situations.
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