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Can I receive both my own Social Security retirement and widow benefits at the same time?

I lost my husband 3 years ago and I'm turning 62 next month. I've been looking into filing for Social Security but honestly I'm so confused by all these different benefits. If I apply for my own retirement benefits now, can I still get something extra because I'm a widow? I worked for about 25 years as a teacher (not covered by Social Security for part of that time) but my husband worked in construction his whole life and had much higher earnings than me. The SSA website is so confusing and I can't tell if I should be applying for both benefits or if that's even possible. I just want to maximize what I can receive since I'm really struggling with bills lately. Thanks for any help!

Rosie Harper

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You've asked a really important question that many widows face. You can't receive both your full retirement benefit AND your full widow's benefit at the same time - SSA will only pay the higher of the two amounts. However, there's a strategy you might be able to use. Since you're turning 62, you could file for either your reduced retirement benefit OR your reduced widow's benefit. The optimal strategy often involves taking the lower benefit first and then switching to the higher benefit later when it reaches its maximum amount. For example, if your widow's benefit would ultimately be higher, you might take your own reduced retirement benefit at 62, then switch to the unreduced widow's benefit at your Full Retirement Age (probably 66-67 depending on your birth year). This is definitely a case where talking to someone at SSA directly would help, as they can calculate your exact benefit amounts for both scenarios.

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Darren Brooks

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Thank you for explaining! So I might be able to get my own benefit now and then switch to the widow's benefit later? I had no idea that was possible. Do you know if they calculate this automatically or do I need to specifically ask for this strategy when I apply?

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my sister did this exact thing!! she took her own benefit at 62 (it was small, only like $1100) and then when she hit 66 she switched to her husbands which was like $2400 i think. she said it was the smartest thing she did financially.

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Darren Brooks

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That's really helpful to hear a real example! $2400 is so much more than what I'd get on my own. Did your sister have to do anything special to make the switch happen when she reached 66?

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Demi Hall

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YOUR BEST BET IS TO WAIT!!! If you take your own benefit early at 62, it's permanently reduced by like 30%!!! Same with widow benefits if you take them before your full retirement age. The SSA doesn't always tell you all your options either because the workers are overworked and undertrained. I made this mistake and I'm stuck with a tiny check forever now. DON'T DO WHAT I DID!!

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Thats not entirely accurate though. The reduction for taking widow benefits early is different than for retirement benefits. Widow benefits only reduce by about 0.396% per month before FRA, so roughly 19% reduction at age 60 vs full at FRA. Its less steep than the 30% cut for retirement benefits at 62. Also taking one benefit early doesn't affect the other benefit's amount when you switch.

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Kara Yoshida

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The strategy the first commenter mentioned is called "restricted application" and it can be very valuable for widows. Since you mentioned you were a teacher, I should point out that you might be affected by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and possibly the Government Pension Offset (GPO) if you're receiving a pension from work not covered by Social Security. This can reduce both your own benefit and potentially your widow's benefit. I'd recommend getting a benefits calculation directly from SSA that accounts for any potential WEP/GPO reductions before making your decision. The optimal strategy depends on the exact benefit amounts and your life expectancy.

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Darren Brooks

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Oh no, I forgot about WEP/GPO! I do have a small pension from my teaching years. This is getting even more complicated than I thought. I really need to speak with someone who can look at all these factors together.

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Caesar Grant

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Have you checked your Social Security statement online to see what your estimated benefits would be? You can create an account at ssa.gov/myaccount and it shows estimates for your own retirement at different ages AND your widow's benefit. That might help you compare the numbers before deciding what to do.

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Darren Brooks

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I tried creating an account but kept having trouble with the verification questions. I should try again though. It would be helpful to see the actual numbers.

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Rosie Harper

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Since you mentioned you worked as a teacher not covered by Social Security for part of your career, the WEP/GPO issue raised by another commenter is crucial. The Government Pension Offset can reduce your widow's benefit by 2/3 of your teacher's pension amount. This could significantly impact your strategy. Here's what I recommend: 1. Get your benefit estimates from SSA (online or by phone) 2. Ask specifically how WEP/GPO affects each benefit type in your case 3. Calculate which claiming strategy maximizes your lifetime benefits Generally, if your widow's benefit will be substantially higher than your own retirement benefit (even after GPO reduction), taking your own reduced benefit at 62 and switching to widow's benefits at your FRA often works best. But this is very specific to your individual circumstances.

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Darren Brooks

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I definitely need to get those numbers from SSA. I think I'll try that Claimyr service the other person mentioned since this is so complicated with the pension offset. I really appreciate everyone's help!

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just wanna add my two cents - my mom was in a similar boat and SSA never told her she could switch benefits later! she found out from a friend years later that she could have been getting more. definitely get a second opinion and talk to someone who specializes in widows benefits. the frontline SSA people dont always know all the rules.

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