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Can I claim my own Social Security now then switch to widow benefits at FRA? SSA rep said no?

I'm really confused and hoping someone here can help clarify. I just turned 65 last month and am trying to figure out my Social Security options. My husband passed away three years ago and had already started collecting his Social Security early (about 14 months before his full retirement age). I was planning to take my own retirement benefits now, then switch to the survivor benefits when I reach my full retirement age in August 2026. But when I called SSA yesterday, the representative told me that if I start collecting my own benefits now, I can NEVER switch to survivor benefits later - that I'd be permanently stuck with my own benefit amount. That doesn't sound right based on what I've read online? I thought the rule was that widows could switch between their own and survivor benefits to maximize their lifetime payout. Is the SSA rep correct or did I get bad information? I'm really worried about making a permanent mistake here that could cost me thousands of dollars over my lifetime.

StarStrider

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That SSA rep gave you completely WRONG information!!! As a widow, you absolutely CAN file for your own retirement benefit now and then switch to survivor benefits at your FRA. I did this exact thing last year. The rules changed for spousal benefits with that 2015 law but NOT for survivor benefits. You should call back and speak with someone else because that person doesn't know what there talking about.

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Ethan Clark

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Thank you so much! I thought that sounded wrong but started doubting myself. Did you have any trouble when you went to switch over? I'm worried about getting stuck with another rep who gives me incorrect information.

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Yuki Sato

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The previous commenter is correct. As a widow, you have the option to claim either your own retirement benefits OR survivor benefits, and can switch between them at any point. The strategy you mentioned (claiming your own now, then switching to survivor benefits at FRA) can be a good one if your survivor benefit would be higher than your own benefit. The confusion likely stems from the fact that the rules for spousal benefits changed with the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, but the rules for survivor benefits remained unchanged. Survivors maintain the ability to choose which benefit to take and when to switch. Before making a final decision, you should consider: 1. Your own Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) at your FRA 2. Your husband's benefit amount (which would be reduced since he claimed early) 3. Your financial needs now versus later Given your husband claimed early, his survivor benefit to you will be reduced somewhat, but it still might be higher than your own benefit at FRA. I'd recommend requesting a detailed benefit calculation for both options.

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Carmen Ruiz

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this happened to my sister too she got wrong info the first time and right info the second. seems like some of the people working there dont know there own rules!

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Andre Lefebvre

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I've been through this exact situation and ended up calling SSA six times before I got someone who actually understood the rules for widow benefits! It was so frustrating. Each time I got different information. The rules are confusing even to them apparently. Just to confirm what others have said - yes, you CAN take your own benefit now and switch to survivor benefits later. OR you can take survivor benefits now (which would be reduced because you're before FRA) and switch to your own at 70 if your own would be higher with delayed credits. I found that having the exact regulation reference helped when talking to them. The ability to switch between benefits is in Section 404.335 of their regulations.

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Ethan Clark

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Thank you for the regulation number! That's really helpful. I'm definitely going to write that down before calling again. Did you find a particular time of day or week that was better for reaching someone knowledgeable?

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Zoe Alexopoulos

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Ethan Clark

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Thank you for the tip! I'll definitely check out that service. The wait times are ridiculous - I was on hold for over an hour yesterday before getting that wrong information. I'll make sure to ask for a survivor benefits specialist too.

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Jamal Anderson

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my mother in law went thru this same thing last yr. the first person told her she couldnt switch but that was WRONG!! she called back and got someone else who fixed it. dont give up just becuz one person told u something. they make mistakes all the time!!

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Ethan Clark

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Thanks for sharing your mother-in-law's experience. It's really reassuring to hear that others have successfully navigated this after initially getting incorrect information.

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Mei Wong

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The information you received is definitely incorrect. I think the SSA representative may have confused the rules for spousal benefits (which did change in 2015) with survivor benefits (which did not change). Here's what you need to know: - For SPOUSAL benefits (when your spouse is living): The deemed filing rule requires that if you file for either your own retirement or your spousal benefit, you're deemed to have filed for both. - For SURVIVOR benefits (as in your case): You still have the choice to file for either your own retirement OR your survivor benefit, and can switch to the other later. Given your situation, you have two main strategies: 1. Take your reduced retirement benefit now, then switch to your unreduced survivor benefit at your FRA (in 2026) 2. Take your reduced survivor benefit now, then switch to your own retirement at age 70 (if your own with delayed credits would be higher) Which is better depends on the specific benefit amounts and your life expectancy. I recommend writing down all these details before calling SSA again, and specifically asking for someone who specializes in survivor benefits.

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Ethan Clark

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Thank you for explaining the difference between spousal and survivor rules so clearly. That makes perfect sense why the rep might have been confused. I'm definitely going to call back and ask for a survivor benefits specialist.

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StarStrider

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Just want to add one more thing - make sure when you go to switch benefits at your FRA that you get confirmation in writing! I had to go back THREE TIMES because they kept making errors in processing my switch from retirement to survivor benefits. The first time they just didn't process it at all, the second time they processed it but calculated it wrong. Save every letter, record every phone call (tell them you're recording), and check your bank deposits carefully.

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Andre Lefebvre

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THIS! Documentation is SO important! I learned this the hard way when dealing with my survivor benefits. I'd recommend taking screenshots of your MySocialSecurity account showing benefit amounts before and after any changes too. And write down the name and direct extension (if possible) of any helpful SSA rep you speak with.

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Carmen Ruiz

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my wife is a widow and she did exactly what ur talking about! she took her own SS at 63 and then when she hit FRA last year she switched to her husbands benefit which was higher. that SSA lady gave u wrong info for sure!!!

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Ethan Clark

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That's great to hear your wife successfully did this! Do you happen to remember if she had to provide any specific documentation when she made the switch?

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Yuki Sato

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After reading through this thread, I wanted to provide some additional clarity on the survivor benefit amounts since your husband claimed early: When calculating your survivor benefit, SSA will look at: 1. The actual benefit your husband was receiving when he died (reduced for early claiming) 2. What your husband would have received if he had lived to his FRA (full amount) As his widow, you'll generally receive the higher of: - 100% of what your husband was actually receiving at death - 82.5% of your husband's PIA (the amount he would have received at his FRA) This is called the "widow's limit" or RIB-LIM rule. It can be complicated, but it's important to understand this when comparing your options. Don't feel bad about the confusion - this is one of the most complex areas of Social Security rules, and unfortunately, not all SSA representatives are equally well-versed in these details.

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Ethan Clark

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Thank you for explaining the RIB-LIM rule! I hadn't heard of that before. It sounds like I definitely need to get the exact numbers for both scenarios before making my decision. I appreciate everyone's help so much - I feel much more confident about calling SSA back now.

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